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Old 02-02-2013, 07:47 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Hello Senator Barney Frank!

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Old 02-02-2013, 08:21 PM
 
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Amazing the 3 most important offices in Massachusetts (senate+Gov.) is a guy from Chicago (patrick), another from North Carolina (the interm), and a woman from Oklahoma (warren)
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Brown will lose running for governor if he tries.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The assertion that the GOP cannot compete in national elections due to demographic realities is asinine; Romney got more Hispanic votes in both CA & NV than McCain did in 2008, not to mention 42% in the battelground state known as Ohio.

Furthermore, over 370K white Ohio voters chose to stay home rather than vote for either candidate, which means that Ohio in 2016 will be up for grabs again.

Obama's narrow win in Florida (74K votes out of almost 8,400,000 votes) stands in sheer contrast to Fla. Senator Bill Nelson, who won his election by over 1,000,000 votes with 55% of the vote.

There are 20 Democrats facing re-election to the Senate in 2014, with five of them (Begich/Landrieu/Johnson/Hagan/Pryor) facing re-election in states (AK/LA/SD/NC/AR) which Romney won, and immigration reform for them (and Montana's Max Baucus) is going to be hell for them to deal with if any of them display any signs of supporting amnesty, and especially Baucus.

Obama's toxicity within his own party is sky-high as well; just look at how many high-level Democrats skipped the convention. The fact that Obama won barely 51% of the popular vote, which was less than in 2008 clearly proves that his halo is indeed rusting despite widespread and unprecedented protection for him, Hillary and all the rest of them from the liberal press.

that whopping 51% of the popular vote proves that he's not all that popular to begin with, and his healthcare bill is a definite negative, especially with both the IBEW & SEIU in full rebellion over regulations in it which they had no knowledge of three years ago (another 'inconvenient truth' for him to deal with), and which Americans are undisputably against.

His continued pandering to lefties in his party who are even more extreme than he is looks like another disaster-in-the-making as well, and going overboard on both the fiction known as global warming as well as gun control won't help him or his party at all; look no farther than the nonstop and skyrocketing bloodshed in Chicago despite tighter-than-tight gun control laws.

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Old 02-02-2013, 10:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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The assertion that the GOP cannot compete in national elections due to demographic realities is asinine; Romney got more Hispanic votes in both CA & NV than McCain did in 2008.
Newsflash: Doing mildly better than another guy who was destroyed by minority voters is like me bragging the 2013 Mets will finish ahead of the record low baseball team salary Miami Marlins.

Add in for every 100 voters in 2012 , 72 were white. By 2016, 69 or 70 will be, by 2020, 65 or so.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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Tisei's out too.

Looks like Tugjob Romney might actually make a go of it.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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They can cite whatever they want. The Fed runs the country and that has been made clear time and time again but a slew of courts starting with Brown vs BOE. If the GOP doesn't like it, they can stick it.
True, but rigging elections and gerrymandering to maintain control of the House is still part of the same plan.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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Amazing the 3 most important offices in Massachusetts (senate+Gov.) is a guy from Chicago (patrick), another from North Carolina (the interm), and a woman from Oklahoma (warren)
Interesting. Are you thinking that only people born in a state should hold higher office there?

Myself, I imagine it might have something to do with intelligent people getting the hell out of Dodge and heading for a state where higher education and an intelligent work force are predominant.

Patrick: Milton Academy and Harvard.

Warren: Harvard.

Cowan: Northeastern.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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Interesting. Are you thinking that only people born in a state should hold higher office there?

Myself, I imagine it might have something to do with intelligent people getting the hell out of Dodge and heading for a state where higher education and an intelligent work force are predominant.

Patrick: Milton Academy and Harvard.

Warren: Harvard.

Cowan: Northeastern.
NO, its just odd because Massachusetts is not a quickly growing state (about 3-4% vs 9-10% nationally per decade) so I would assume most office holders are from Massachusetts.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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NO, its just odd because Massachusetts is not a quickly growing state (about 3-4% vs 9-10% nationally per decade) so I would assume most office holders are from Massachusetts.
Net growth is irrelevant to domestic migration. There is a lot of domestic migration in the United States. In particular, people move for education, as another poster pointed out, and Massachusetts is a magnet for high-achievers in education. It isn't at all surprising that some such people (such as Patrick, McCowan and Romney, among others).

Just look at Presidential nominees of late:
Barack Obama isn't from Illinois.
Mitt Romney isn't from Massachusetts.
John McCain isn't from Arizona.
Vice President Biden isn't from Delaware.
Rick Santorum (Romney's closest rival for the nomination) only spend part of his childhood in Pennsylvania.
Hillary Clinton (Obama's closest rival for the nomination) isn't from New York.

High-achievers tend to move a lot in pursuit of academic and professional opportunities. High-achievers also tend to wind up holding high office. So it is not at all surprising that holders of high office are often not from places they represent. This is probably particularly true of Massachusetts because, as mentioned, it has long attracted high-achievers in abundance due to the high-end prep schools, colleges and universities located there.
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