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Old 07-01-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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I certainly hope you aren't deluding yourself into thinking that Romney isn't pro-outsourcing.

That would be one twisted viewpoint.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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"some of" those jobs. And he's right.

Some tasks simply aren't worth doing if you have to pay 1st-world compensation for them. It makes perfect sense to hand those off to cheaper labor markets if - and that's a big if - they can be done well enough.
Most. And Obama has personally made decisions that have sped up outsourcing.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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I certainly hope you aren't deluding yourself into thinking that Romney isn't pro-outsourcing.

That would be one twisted viewpoint.
I would argue that Obama is more pro-outsourcing than Romney.

Romney used investors private money to make the pensions and 401Ks grow. Obama has used laws and US tax payer money to make foreign companies grow.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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What´s wrong with what he said? He NEVER said he was anti-outsourcing... Obviously he does not deny that the business method has legitimate uses... HOWEVER what HE HAS SAID is that companies who use outsourcing SHOULD NOT RECEIVE TAX BREAKS for doing so... given that going overseas for hiring cheaper labor is a tax break in itself... Please don´t mislead with your politics please...
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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I would argue that Obama is more pro-outsourcing than Romney.

Romney used investors private money to make the pensions and 401Ks grow. Obama has used laws and US tax payer money to make foreign companies grow.
You need to follow where that money came from. This isn't rocket science. The govt owns publicly traded companies and the corporate model works on the bottom line.

So the govt sent jobs overseas to make more money for Big Gov and Big Corp. Catherine Austin Fitts is someone who can tell you when she was in HUD under Bush Sr how she was told the jobs were going overseas.

Romney is no better in this regard imo. You want to think so. Good luck with that.
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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What´s wrong with what he said? He NEVER said he was anti [do you mean pro?]-outsourcing... Obviously he does not deny that the business method has legitimate uses... HOWEVER what HE HAS SAID is that companies who use outsourcing SHOULD NOT RECEIVE TAX BREAKS for doing so... given that going overseas for hiring cheaper labor is a tax break in itself... Please don´t mislead with your politics please...
I think you made a typo.

Obama has said that it would hurt the economy to get most of these jobs back. That is pro-outsourcing.

Obama has used tax payer dollars to train people in other countries so that they can take US jobs being out sourced. That is pro-outsourcing.

Obama has used tax payer dollars to invest in foreign companies instead of American companies. Some of those companies have ZERO US employees. That is pro-outsourcing.

Obama's stimulus created thousands of wind power jobs outside of the country to non-US citizens, in America jobs for wind power? An empty paper bag, jobs actually decreased in that field. That is pro-outsourcing.

Obama has bundlers that are major outsources. That is pro-outsourcing.

Obama has top advisers on jobs that are major (including the biggest) outsources. That is pro-outsourcing.

After using public money to promote outsourcing, Obama has the gall to criticize Romney for helping American pensions and 401Ks through keeping some companies alive through some outsourcing?

Obama...major hypocrite.
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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Isn't bringing jobs back good for the economy? Sure he may be talking about low paying jobs, they would be entry-level jobs, not necessarily career level jobs. Get the job, work for 6-12 months, gain the work experience and start applying for other jobs.
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:05 PM
 
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I am against outsourcing, but outsourcing is just part of the problem. There has to be away to make it uncomfortable for companies to outsource. In my opinion if u want to do business in the US and make US profits u better be creating US jobs and if your not then no USD for u.
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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I am against outsourcing, but outsourcing is just part of the problem. There has to be away to make it uncomfortable for companies to outsource. In my opinion if u want to do business in the US and make US profits u better be creating US jobs and if your not then no USD for u.
The govt and big corps don't care about your status as long as the bills get paid and revenue rolls in. As long as the govt profits from this model don't expect it to change. Only "we the people" will change it. Why do you think only about 1/3 of govt revenue has been reported to be from taxes? They make a great deal more money elsewhere and through investments. That is what NAFTA and bills like Commodity Modernization Act were about.

Look into derivatives, interest rate swaps and CAFRs. Will help you understand what is happening. Big Govt and Big Corp are completely integrated.
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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