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Old 07-18-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Okay, if you are too lazy and/or stupid to get a photo ID, then don't bother to vote, or cash checks, or fly a commercial airliner or... yadda, yadda....
Compassionate Conservatism in action.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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You apply for social security when you're 62, 65, or 67, not when you're (usually) in a nursing home. Medicare is at 65. You don't need an ID, to receive it, by the way.

Perhaps a local community college has a civics course you can take?
What percentage of elderly cannot get an ID? How did they get to that age and never acquired that knowledge, I can only assume it's a very tiny minority?

Besides, any state that would have photo ID laws would have all of this covered. They have entire departments geared to assisting their citizens to obtain an ID, and they'd come to the nursing homes to help the elderly get their photo ID if they was no other way for them to get one. There are also plenty of charitable organizations that also offer support and help to get an ID.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You apply for social security when you're 62, 65, or 67, not when you're (usually) in a nursing home. Medicare is at 65. You don't need an ID, to receive it, by the way.

Perhaps a local community college has a civics course you can take?
You have to provide a certified copy of your birth certificate to get benifits, to get a certified copy you need an ID.

Social Security Forms - Information You Need To apply for retirement benefits or medicare
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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This is not a controversial issue. It is an established fact that voter ID laws suppress the vote of specific classes of people who tend to vote Democratic. This has been well established for years, and the newest study (co-authored by Cathy J. Cohen of the University of Chicago and Jon C. Rogowski of Washington University in St. Louis) just came out a couple of months ago.

Study finds voter ID laws hurt young minorities - Emily Schultheis - POLITICO.com

More interestingly, almost none of the "examples" of voter fraud that have been trotted out by Republicans as their rationale for the push would have been caught by voter ID laws.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Allowing ineligible people to vote suppresses the value of MY legitimate vote.
Did you read my post at all? Seriously, did you read any of it? Why not address all the other things I mentioned such as the same day registration, the voting hours, etc. Can you do that?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:03 AM
 
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Compassionate Conservatism in action.
I have no compassion for people who refuse to do anything to help themselves. It's libs like you who assume everyone is a pathetic loser, and needs to be spoon fed and hand-held their entire lives, even over something as simple as getting a freaking ID.

BTW, these same people that don't have an ID to vote, and are too lazy to get one, don't have an ID to cash a check, apply for federal assistance, buy a car at a dealership, get on a commercial plane, enter the City Hall to vote, go to court, drive a car, etc... In other words, in todays society they are practically dysfunctional.

Give it up, you are sounding like an idiot here.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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You have to provide a certified copy of your birth certificate to get benifits, to get a certified copy you need an ID.

Social Security Forms - Information You Need To apply for retirement benefits or medicare
I got my birth certificate-- y'know-- at birth. Didn't need an ID then..
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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i have no compassion for people who refuse to do anything to help themselves. It's libs like you who assume everyone is a pathetic loser, and needs to be spoon fed and hand-held their entire lives, even over something as simple as getting a freaking ID.

BTW, these same people that don't have an ID to vote, and are too lazy to get one, don't have an ID to cash a check, apply for federal assistance, buy a car at a dealership, get on a commercial plane, enter the City Hall to vote, go to court, drive a car, etc... In other words, they are practically dysfunctional.

Give it up, you are sounding like an idiot here.
The only one sounding like an idiot is the one who resorts to insulting others.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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i have no compassion for people who refuse to do anything to help themselves.

Yes, those damn nursing home patients.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I got my birth certificate-- y'know-- at birth. Didn't need an ID then..
You didn't get it, your parents did. Though I highly doubt you have your original birth certificate and even if you did, you have to provide certified copies to many government agencies when you claim social security.

Do you think people are being disenfranchised because they cannot get married without ID?
How about traveling by air plane?
Opening a bank account?
Getting a loan?
Cashing a check?
Purchasing a gun?
Apply for welfare?
Purchase alcohol?
Rent an apartment?
Pick up mail?
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