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Old 06-14-2012, 12:59 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Virginia: Romney vs. Obama
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How many times do you have to be told that an incumbent polling under 50% is not "strong"...especially not "very strong"...and especially when his/her approval rating is significantly below 50% (and it has been in the majority of VA polls where it's asked)? And...even if he was consistently polling above 50%, a 3-point average lead is not "very strong."

I'm sure you will ignore this as usual.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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How many times do you have to be told that an incumbent polling under 50% is not "strong"...especially not "very strong"...and especially when his/her approval rating is significantly below 50% (and it has been in the majority of VA polls where it's asked)?

I'm sure you will ignore this as usual.
Desperate measures for desperate times.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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You two are delusional if you think romney is in any kind of position of strength.He is very weak. As he comes back to the spot light to face Obama he will slide in all the polls and you know it.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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You two are delusional if you think romney is in any kind of position of strength.He is very weak. As he comes back to the spot light to face Obama he will slide in all the polls and you know it.
LOL....

You think Obama is strong?!?!?!? No president has ever been re-elected with approval as low as his.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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LOL....

You think Obama is strong?!?!?!? No president has ever been re-elected with approval as low as his.
Wont be the first time Obama has done a first now will it?
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Why would someone from VA vote for Obama?
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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Wont be the first time Obama has done a first now will it?
Umm...he hasn't won yet and there is a very good chance he won't win. If he does win, his approval likely will have come up significantly by the time of the election or third party candidates will have an extremely good year. Look at history - no incumbent president has gotten a greater percentage of the popular vote than his approval rating since Carter in 1980 and he still lost in a landslide. In fact, incumbent presidents usually underperform their approval ratings by a few points (even W did...his approval was 53% among voters on Election Day according to exit polls, yet he still only got 51% of the vote). As far as the third party thing - when third party candidates do well, incumbents generally greatly underpeform their approval ratings (see the 1996 election...when Clinton underpeformed his approval rating by ~7-10 points).

For whatever reason, despite looking at Obama's approval rating, I say the election is a tossup - right around a 50% chance that Obama will win and right around a 50% chance that Romney will win. Still, when I look at his approval rating, I don't know why I think his chances are that high. Obviously his approval could come up but it's unlikely to unless there is significant improvement in the economy.

Your whole argument for why you feel certain that Obama will be re-elected is basically "I'm in love with Obama, I hate Mitt Romney" or simply "Obama is entitled to win." It's amusing to say the least.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:11 PM
 
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Excellent news indeed
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Excellent news indeed
50% approval for a sitting Pres with lses than 5 months to go, isn't excellent news; it could be worse, but it is not very encouraging or it shouldn't be anyway.
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