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Old 04-15-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Nope biggest flip-flopper out there is none other then Obama.
Than, not then. There's a rather huge difference in the meaning of the two words. You seem to have very strong opinions here, but if you don't have a basic understanding of grammar then people will think that you don't read much and don't know what you're talking about. That type of thing gets covered early in grade school.

In terms of the economy, where is your discussion of how much of this is the fault of the sitting President vs. what was inherited. You seem to be making a rather basic logical fallacy here. You're confusing cause and effect. Just because person A is President when the economy is bad doesn't mean that he caused the situation or can do anything to magically fix it.

What were the numbers that Obama promised? When you mention specific numbers and statistics you should provide them. Otherwise, educated people like myself will assume that you made them up.

I'm not sure what you meant by, "nothing has change". Did you mean changed? Plenty of things have changed since 2009. The recession is over and the economy is growing. There were plenty of other changes as well. End of the war in Iraq, gays in the military, Detroit getting back on its feet, etc.

This is a good economy in that the economy is growing. That's what makes it good. There are still long term problems, such as in real estate, that will take a decade to go away and that no sitting President can eliminate.

Your comment about the war on women is really a red herring and has nothing to do with the rest of your post. I look forward to your rebuttal.
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That's the best you can come up with?

"I will promise you this: that if we haven't gotten our troops out by the time I'm president it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. I will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank."
- Barack Obama, October 27, 2007

"I've said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantanamo and I will follow through on that. I've said repeatedly that America doesn't torture. And I'm going to make sure we don't torture. Those are part and parcel of an effort to regain America's moral stature in the world." - Barack Obama, 60 Minutes (2008) Guantanamo is still open, the US is using foreign nations to carry out torture, when it isn't committing it itself.

"And as President I'm going to make it impossible for Congressmen or lobbyists to slip pork barrel projects or corporate welfare into laws while no one's looking. Because when I'm President meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public - no more secrecy - that's a commitment I make to you as President. When there's a tax bill being debated in Congress, you will know the names of the corporations that would benefit and how much money they would get. And we will put every corporate tax break and every pork barrel project online for every American to see. You'll know who asked for them and you can decide whether your representative is actually representing you." - Barack Obama, 2008

"....create jobs building solar panels and wind turbines and the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow. Jobs that will help us end our dependence on foreign oil and may save the planet in the process. Rebuilding our crumbling roads and schools and bridges...." "....so we can have a new electricity grid and bring renewable energy to population centers here in Indiana and across America. Build an American infrastructure for the 21st century." - Barack Obama, 2008

"....that tired, worn-out old theory that says, that says we should give more to billionaires and big corporations and hope that prosperity will trickle-down on everybody else. The last thing... the last thing we can afford is four more years where no one in Washington is watching anyone on Wall Street because politicians and lobbyists killed common-sense regulations. Those are the theories that got us into this mess. They haven't worked and it is time for change, and that's why I'm running for President of the United States of America." - Barack Obama, 2008

"...bailout Wall Street banks. As President I will insure the financial rescue plan helps stop foreclosures and protects your money, instead of enriching CEOs. And I'll put in place the common-sense regulations that I've been calling for throughout this campaign. So that Wall Street can never cause a crisis like this again. That's the change we need." - Barack Obama, 2008

"It's been a long time coming. But tonight, because of what we did on this day, in this election at this defining moment, change has come to America." - Barack Obama, November 4, 2008

Quotes excerpted from Barack Obama campaign speeches and interviews as shown in the documentary "Lifting the Veil: Obama and the Failure of Capitalist Democracy"

At a news conference Monday in Chile, President Barack Obama stated about his order to fire 110 Tomahawk missiles into Libya: "this was not an attempt at regime change, but a humanitarian effort to save civilian and rebel lives from Gaddafi’s threat to annihilate anyone who threatened his rule." March 21, 2011

"You will have your choice of a number of plans that offer a few different packages, but every plan would offer an affordable, basic package… And I believe one of these options needs to be a public option that will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market, so that we can force waste out of the system and keep the insurance companies honest." ~President Barack Obama

Referring to the Bush Administration's use of phone companies to illegally spy on Americans: "We only know these crimes took place because insiders blew the whistle at great personal risk ... Government whistleblowers are part of a healthy democracy and must be protected from reprisal." ~ Presidential Candidate & U.S. Senator Barack Obama, 2008

"The President does not have the power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." --Barack Obama, December 2007

This thread is about Romney's flip-flops, not Obamas. If want to talk about Obama, go start you own thread.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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In light of the Trayvon Martin shooting, Romney might be better off keeping his trap shut on this topic. He has already alienated women voters. Now it looks like he is going after alienating the African-American vote as well.
Yes, he definitely should have kept his mouth shut, because now he has to insert his foot - again. LOL!

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Mitt Romney flashback: Stay-at-home moms need to learn ‘dignity of work’

but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.’”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...s=rss_homepage
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:08 PM
 
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This thread is about Romney's flip-flops, not Obamas. If want to talk about Obama, go start you own thread.


Actually someone already did...lol.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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Pretty much everyone knows what a buffoon $Willard is by now.

Hell, even most con's are embarrassed to have this guy as their leader...
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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Lightbulb Just from January to April ... flip-flop

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Old 04-16-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Romney reminds me of the lyrics of that Dylan song: "the answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind." A well-oiled weather vane indeed, he is.
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