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Old 04-13-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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It is so funny that the only gun law or regulation that Obama has proposed or signed off on was one expanding the rights of gun owners, i.e., to carry weapons in National Parks!

I hope Mitt brings this up as one of his debate talking points.
It will be interesting if he and when he does.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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In light of the Trayvon Martin shooting, Romney might be better off keeping his trap shut on this topic. He has already alienated women voters. Now it looks like he is going after alienating the African-American vote as well.



Which women?

The ones who believe raising children is not work?

Ann Romney Fights Back: Debuts on Twitter to Counter DNC Advisor’s Insult - ABC News

I guess the feminist movement was about giving women choices as long as the choices were ones liberals like.



The reason you have a Treyvon Martin thug in the first place is because someone didn't do his or her job as a parent.

As for the black vote, I'm pretty sure they have already decided which candidate they like.

It's not the Republican and it's definitely not a white one.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:53 PM
 
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Ah, MR flip flops??????

Guess who has flip flopped more times than you can count? BHO

MR would have a long way to go to catch up with the original mr etch-a-sketch, president Obama.

If FF are an important indicator of a candidate's worthiness i guess you will not be voting for Obama in November.
Yeah, ahh prove it. When you make a statement like that, grow a set and prove it. Go ahead and outline the flip flops. I'm not saying that there aren't any, but if you're man enough to make a statement, man up and justify it.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Ah, MR flip flops??????

Guess who has flip flopped more times than you can count? BHO

MR would have a long way to go to catch up with the original mr etch-a-sketch, president Obama.

If FF are an important indicator of a candidate's worthiness i guess you will not be voting for Obama in November.

Even the NRA supports 'gun control" as does Sarah Brady. Guess what? there is a huge spectrum of difference. Being in favor of gun control tells us nothing.

Gun laws must be obeyed to be effective. Anyone know of any criminals who, upon hearing the latest feel good laws, turned in their guns or left them home when they committed a crime?
BHO flip flops like newly hooked mackerel.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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In light of the Trayvon Martin shooting, Romney might be better off keeping his trap shut on this topic. He has already alienated women voters. Now it looks like he is going after alienating the African-American vote as well.
Umm what?
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Hardly an embarrassment of riches in the pool of potential Republican candidates for President. To think that Romney is the best you guys could do.
Not only that, but possible running mates are already running...away from Romney. The man simple has no moral compass, no core values or the integrity to take a position and stay with it. Romney has given the Obama campaign so much ammunition that can be used against him that it's sad; by November, the electorate will know about every position switch Romney's made. He gives the appearance of being an opportunist, willing to say or do anything to get himself elected. Most Americans expect at least a bit of honesty, and Mitt can't even fake it.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:39 AM
 
Location: County Mayo Descendant
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Today, Mitt Romney addressed the National Rifle Association at their annual convention. During his speech, he said the following:


"We need a president who will enforce current laws, not create new ones that only serve to burden lawful gun owners," Romney told thousands of NRA members in St. Louis for their annual convention. "President Obama has not. I will."


Mitt Romney told the group: "We need a president who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and those seeking to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not; I will."

Mitt Romney NRA Speech: Presumptive GOP Nominee Addresses Conference


But, in the past, he sang a different tune on more than one occasion:



He backed two gun-control measures that were strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association: the Brady Law, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales, and a ban on certain assault weapons, saying, "I think they will help."

He proudly said those positions wouldn't make him "the hero of the NRA." As governor, he made Massachusetts the first state to permanently ban assault weapons. He has even flip-flopped about whether he owns any guns. In New Hampshire, he was asked his view on the Second Amendment. He responded that he had been a hunter "pretty much all my life." Later, red-faced aides of Romney had to admit that Romney had never had a hunting license, and under further questioning, Romney acknowledged that his "lifetime of hunting" was having shot at some birds during a Republican governors meeting during a fund-raising event and maybe shooting at "small varmints" when he was seventeen with his cousin.
Source: Do The Right Thing, by Mike Huckabee, p. 17-18 , Nov 18, 2008


Top Romney Flip Flops: #3. Gun Control:
Campaigning for the Senate in 1994, Romney said he favored strong gun laws and did not “line up with the NRA.” He signed up for “lifetime membership” of the NRA in August 2006 while pondering a presidential run, praising the group for “doing good things” and “supporting the right to bear arms.”
Source: GovWatch on 2008 campaign: “Top Ten Flip-Flops” , Feb 5, 2008


I do support the Second Amendment. I would have signed the assault weapon ban that came to his desk. I said I would have supported that and signed a similar bill in our state. It was a bill worked out, by the way, between pro-gun lobby and anti-gun lobby individuals. Both sides of the issue came together and found a way to provide relaxation in licensing requirements and allow more people to--to have guns for their own legal purposes. So we signed that in Massachusetts, and I’d support that at the federal level.
Source: 2008 GOP debate in Boca Raton Florida , Jan 24, 2008


We should check on the backgrounds of people who are trying to purchase guns. We also should keep weapons of unusual lethality from being on the street. And finally, we should go after people who use guns in the commission of crimes or illegally, but we should not interfere with the right of law-abiding citizens to own guns, for their own personal protection or hunting or any other lawful purpose. I support the work of the NRA. I’m a member of the NRA. But do we line up on every issue? No, we don’t.
Source: Meet the Press: 2007 “Meet the Candidates” series , Dec 16, 2007


The Brady Bill has changed over time, and, of course, technology has changed over time. I would have supported the original assault weapon ban. I signed an assault weapon ban as Massachusetts governor
Source: Meet the Press: 2007 “Meet the Candidates” series , Dec 16, 2007



Does the guy have ANY principles? Does he know where he stands on ANY issue?
I really don't believe he wants to be "The President of the USA" he just likes the title "President" and will flip flop ever which way to try and do that.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:53 AM
 
Location: County Mayo Descendant
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Oh please, Obama had nothing to with the situation in Florida. If there are race riots then you should blame it all on the police. If they had arrested him when it happened instead of letting him go none of this would even be in the news.
Exactly
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:27 AM
 
Location: NJ
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"Yeah, ahh prove it. When you make a statement like that, grow a set and prove it. Go ahead and outline the flip flops. I'm not saying that there aren't any, but if you're man enough to make a statement, man up and justify it."

This was said tongue in cheek right?

Plenty of examples on utube..that is audio/video of mr etch-a-sketch switching position without any attempt to explain his transition. Obviously the bolded post is proof Obama has no concern about explaining his 'other self' to blind and deaf supporters.

The expressed unawareness of obama's flip flops is stunning......
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I really don't believe he wants to be "The President of the USA" he just likes the title "President" and will flip flop ever which way to try and do that.

Mittens reminds me very much of Lamar Alexander and Bill Clinton: He will say or do ANYTHING IT TAKES to con us out of our votes. And, like both of them, he wants to be President REAL badly, which must lead to the question of...why? If he has no principles, no guiding light or doctrine, just what the hell is he going to do with that office besides sit in it and feel grand?

What would be humorous if it wasn't so tragic for the nation, is that the Obamaphobes will vote for him no matter what he says.
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