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Old 10-13-2011, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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This is HILARIOUS. If the 'Paul people' believe they can attack and bad-mouth another candidate (i.e. all other candidates) and thereby gain support for Ron Paul, well that simply is WRONG....and turns off most everyone.

And, sorry to inform Paul supportors....but Paul CANNOT get elected.

I'm as sure he can't win....as I am either of the former Bush'es will never be President Again!
If the philosophy of smaller gov't, less taxes, fiscal responsibility and more freedom is a turnoff - then to hell with it. Ron Paul is the only candidate the Tea Party should be endorsing.
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:03 PM
 
Location: in area code 919 & from 716
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Anyone who is a conservative would not ask to give the federal government 9% in sales tax knowing what government does with taxes.
Anyone thinking about new taxes needs to find ways to remove taxes not give liberal socialist in the future to move 999 to 20 20 20 in the near future.

With this lack of vision on just what govermment will do only shows me he is not ready to lead towards LIBERTY!

Remove the federal personal income tax and repeal the 16th amendment, repalce it with a constitutional amendment of 3% federal sales tax never to be increased and with it will be a balanced budget!

Then cut spending to fit that budget.

Watch the economy boom from FREE MARKETS AND FREE PEOPLE FOR ONCE and the middle class can actually make and keep the money they earn!

That is A BOLD plan!
Cain has a BOLD plan for more government taxes and ensuring more federal reserve printing presses and socialist to one day increase those pizza deal numbers.
well said! Especially:
Remove the federal personal income tax and repeal the 16th amendment, replace it with a constitutional amendment of 3% federal sales tax never to be increased and with it will be a balanced budget!
Actually; I personally would be willing to take the 3% up more, so long as something can be done to reconstruct access to our income with some sort of state tax regulations.

I wouldn't underestimate a future loophole where fed accesses state tax as a bailout for their lack of control.

Personally speaking; I would not complain about as much as 20% for both state and fed - that's double an acceptable church tithing!
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Neither of them are 'bad'....

There's more than one type of car...

Toyota is good, and so is Ford...

Disagreeing with someone, doesn't make them 'bad' or 'evil'....

And being a 'community organizer'...doesn't make someone bad...
Speaking for or trying to empower those who are less fortunate is not a bad thing...

One could say Tea party leaders are 'community organizers'...infact they are...but that doesn't make them 'bad'....

Herman Cain is not 'bad'...nor is Barrack Obama...there just two men with different ways of doing things...


(this need to always demonize those we disagree with comes from where? and benifits who?)
Do you really think people that lie and deceive you are good? Think before you tell anybody else to grow up.
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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100% talk radio rhetoric...straight from the lips of Rush Limbaugh and Sean H and Micheal Savage...

1. The current President is no more or less corrupt than any of his predicisors...

2. Incompetant??....that cannot be substantuated, and is simply your opinion based on the bias you hold in your heart towards the man....basically fiction...but fiction sells on talk radio...

3. Destroying the country?....again more rhetoric straight out the lips of Limbaugh....
Nothing has changed in my life...I don't see fire falling from the sky...a see people daily shopping, eating out, going on vacation, and getting along just fine...

Step away from the talk radio....
Take another look at the title of this thread - stick to the subject or go join your buddies on OWS.
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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specifically, in regard to the 2nd Amendment. Well, that seals it for me, Cain either does not understand the US Constitution or he will not uphold it if elected and sworn to do so. I'm disappointed to say the least. Cain really is just another establishment RINO.

Cain, in his own words:


Herman Cain's A Gun Control Moderate - YouTube


In one breath he emphatically states he supports the 2nd Amendment and on the other he says the states have the right to restrict this Constitutionally affirmed right that "shall not be infringed".
Wow - that's just absurd. The Constitution applies to the states too, you freaking moron!!!!
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: in area code 919 & from 716
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Wow - that's just absurd. The Constitution applies to the states too, you freaking moron!!!!
So ... San Fransisco and most of California are within the confines of Treason against the Constitution (as well as other place in the USA like Nassau County NY)
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Originally Posted by Time and Space View Post
Neither of them are 'bad'....

There's more than one type of car...

Toyota is good, and so is Ford...

Disagreeing with someone, doesn't make them 'bad' or 'evil'....

And being a 'community organizer'...doesn't make someone bad...
Speaking for or trying to empower those who are less fortunate is not a bad thing...

One could say Tea party leaders are 'community organizers'...infact they are...but that doesn't make them 'bad'....

Herman Cain is not 'bad'...nor is Barrack Obama...there just two men with different ways of doing things...


(this need to always demonize those we disagree with comes from where? and benifits who?)

the only reason that obama got elected was because the USA was tired of the bush name and mccain was acting like another bush.

if anyone else would have been in the repub nomination, pbo would never have made it to janurary 20th.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I find that Cain's business success does not qualify him to run this country. He is a member of a party that has miserably failed this country, most recently during the horrific Bush years. During those years, this loud-mouth, blunt, fast-talker didn't express one bit of outrage at Bush or his administration while they were destroying this country. Not one protest. Bush lied to go to war, not one word from Cain. Bush turned a surplus into a record deficit, and there wasn't any point during this transition that Hermain Cain stood up to protest. He didn't complain about spending during the Bush years. Didn't complain about the record deficit, the mismanaged wars and black hole of spending that it represented. He ignored the health care crisis. He is a member of a party that is comprised of people who have nothing but disdain and disrespect for people who look just like him. He ignores the fact that for him to be marginally accepted by Republicans, he must be outrageously ultra right-wing. He's a fool to devote this portion of his life to a vastly inferior ideology of the GOP.

Count him among the lunatics that are a member of a party that was supported by a young, segregation-obsessed George Wallace. Such a misguided, loudmouth imbecile cannot get my support. When matched up against President Obama, like all the other GOP suspects, he stinks.
I won't even bother correcting your post. Myself and others have done so many times and you still post the same inaccuracies.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I won't even bother correcting your post. Myself and others have done so many times and you still post the same inaccuracies.
Lexus takes his orders from the Pentagon - he exists to pollute this board protecting Obomber.
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