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Old 08-18-2010, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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and why do you say that? Just curious as to your reasoning about the best thing for Obama..

As for winning the house, it isn't common knowledge, in fact it is probably not even a 50/50 shot..It could happen, might happen, but no one is putting a lot of money on who will control the house or the senate in Jan of 2011. Libs would like to say it is a foregone conclusion. That was if it doesn't happen, they can come back with "what a stunning defeat for the Republicans"

Nita
That is SOP for the Left. Build up the hype, keep on saying the house is lost and then when the GOP falls short of 39, crow about the stunning victory.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:03 PM
 
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and why do you say that? Just curious as to your reasoning about the best thing for Obama..

As for winning the house, it isn't common knowledge, in fact it is probably not even a 50/50 shot..It could happen, might happen, but no one is putting a lot of money on who will control the house or the senate in Jan of 2011. Libs would like to say it is a foregone conclusion. That was if it doesn't happen, they can come back with "what a stunning defeat for the Republicans"

Nita
intrade says reps are a decent sized favorite.

why its good for obama? he can blame the gop and use it as a legit excuse now.

he had nobody to blame with the dems in control of both senate and congress.

his constant criticism of reps is baseless with majorities in senate and house.

but, with a split house, that means both parties split the blame now.

obama is at 60.1 on intrade right now for reelection, which is still solid.
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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intrade says reps are a decent sized favorite.

why its good for obama? he can blame the gop and use it as a legit excuse now.

he had nobody to blame with the dems in control of both senate and congress.

his constant criticism of reps is baseless with majorities in senate and house.

but, with a split house, that means both parties split the blame now.

obama is at 60.1 on intrade right now for reelection, which is still solid.
I still do not trust anything that predicts the future, not even intrade. I have said this before, but it is like gambling on elections: Now, if in Aug of 2012 it still says 60% chance then it is worth paying attention. I know what you are saying about blaming, but let's see what can be done if the GOP does take over one or both houses. They would have to take over both and screw things up big time for it to backfire. Yes, it could be a disaster, not likely.
Obama would have to get the unemployment rate down to what he claimed he would do 2 years ago, his stand on the amnesty issue is going to haunt him regardless of what happens and the health care or should we say, Obamacare will be another nail in his coffin. There is nothing much the GOP can really do about Obamacare, maybe ammend a few things. Again, as long as the balance of GOP and DEMS are close he can't blame the GOP.

Nita
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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That is SOP for the Left. Build up the hype, keep on saying the house is lost and then when the GOP falls short of 39, crow about the stunning victory.
exactly!!!!
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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An update; it just got LARGER, a number unprecedented in the history of Gallup.

GOP Takes Unprecedented 10-Point Lead on Generic Ballot

GOP Takes Unprecedented 10-Point Lead on Generic Ballot

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PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans lead by 51% to 41% among registered voters in Gallup weekly tracking of 2010 congressional voting preferences. The 10-percentage-point lead is the GOP's largest so far this year and is its largest in Gallup's history of tracking the midterm generic ballot for Congress.
Let's hope and pray it holds, although I don't trust the media. They could be trying to set up a "narrative" only to see it not come true on election night, then they can crow about it.

Oh, enthusiasm gap - 25 points.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:56 PM
 
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Let's hope and pray it holds, although I don't trust the media. They could be trying to set up a "narrative" only to see it not come true on election night, then they can crow about it.
I can't imagine being so paranoid to the point of thinking that even Gallup Polling is involved in some sort of conspiracy to mislead the public about an election.
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I can't imagine being so paranoid to the point of thinking that even Gallup Polling is involved in some sort of conspiracy to mislead the public about an election.
The media is running with the narrative that it will be a republican wave, based on polling. Not sure the polls can be trusted so much, they missed the Alaska Senate primary and they had the Bennett/Romanoff race a lot closer than reality.

Since the vast majority of media is to the Left, I wouldn't put anything past them.
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:49 PM
 
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The media is running with the narrative that it will be a republican wave, based on polling. Not sure the polls can be trusted so much, they missed the Alaska Senate primary and they had the Bennett/Romanoff race a lot closer than reality.

Since the vast majority of media is to the Left, I wouldn't put anything past them.
And so, what does it mean when the polls predict that a Democrat will win, and the Republican beats him or her?
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:21 PM
 
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Election Day 2010 will ever after be known as The People's Revenge. The motivation for Obama opponents to vote grows week by week.

The more he talks, the higher his disapproval rate goes. The continuing myth that the President's political problems are connected to communication failures means that the Dem strategy is to have the President talk more so we ignorant voters can finally catch on. But the more he talks, the worse it gets--so he talks more.

The Gallup poll on the generic ballot question is at the best level for Republicans since 1942.

Congressional elections are a matter of district-by district results. Obama's support is geographically concentrated in gerrymandered districts, designed long ago to build safe seats for minority office-holders. A win by 1% of the vote is as good as a win by 30%, and the geography points to a small number of districts with way above-average Democrat voters and a large number of districts where the President's support is below average.

We the people just aren't buying what the Dems are selling. A 50 or 60 seat swing is not out of question.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I do hope the poll help spur the Dems to get out the vote, something they didn't do in Mass. We are coming up on election season. I think, once the Repubs expose their "new economic solution" and it looks to be as inadequate as always, the Dems will once again, take advantage of the Repubs lack of any solutions and hit hard on their refusal to work at helping effect some solutions. The Repubs continued refusal, will move more and more Independents away from them. The Independents want solutions and action on those solutions.
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