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Old 04-06-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Nope, not at all. I don't think it comes from either the "arts" part or the "liberal" part. Instead it comes from the common understanding that "liberal arts" means things like, but not limited to English, Lit, Geography, Music, Art, Philosophy, and other non-technical courses. The courses that most people consider you learned in high school and very few people have any need to study further. Versus Science, Math, Engineering, Business which most people consider useful courses.
Except, of course, for the fact that mathematics and physical sciences actually *are* included in the liberal arts...which is yet another common misunderstanding against those who aren't particularly informed on the topic.
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Old 04-06-2019, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Except, of course, for the fact that mathematics and physical sciences actually *are* included in the liberal arts...which is yet another common misunderstanding against those who aren't particularly informed on the topic.
But LIBERAL!

The real crime is that LA schools and degrees have been completely deprecated because, by and large, those degrees aren't instant job tickets. That's what I meant in my prior post: universities should be for education, not job training.

Only middling minds proud of their four-year job ticket in a hot field can possibly think education in a traditional sense is some waste of time for all concerned.
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Old 04-06-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Except, of course, for the fact that mathematics and physical sciences actually *are* included in the liberal arts...which is yet another common misunderstanding against those who aren't particularly informed on the topic.
Exactly! All the "subject" degrees at the U of Colorado, for ex, math, the sciences, history, etc are "Bachelor of Arts in . . ."
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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Exactly! All the "subject" degrees at the U of Colorado, for ex, math, the sciences, history, etc are "Bachelor of Arts in . . ."
Whether they are AB or not is not what qualifies an area of study as a liberal art. Even receiving a BS in physics results in a degree in liberal arts.
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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Whether they are AB or not is not what qualifies an area of study as a liberal art. Even receiving a BS in physics results in a degree in liberal arts.
I'm telling you they don't give that degree at CU. For ex: https://www.colorado.edu/academics/programs/physics
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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I'm telling you they don't give that degree at CU. For ex: https://www.colorado.edu/academics/programs/physics
That's fine, but it's irrelevant to the discussion. No one is discussing AB vs BS.
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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That's fine, but it's irrelevant to the discussion. No one is discussing AB vs BS.
The point is, you get an "arts" degree with a science major, as opposed to what tnff said: "Instead it comes from the common understanding that "liberal arts" means things like, but not limited to English, Lit, Geography, Music, Art, Philosophy, and other non-technical courses."
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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The point is, you get an "arts" degree with a science major, as opposed to what tnff said: "Instead it comes from the common understanding that "liberal arts" means things like, but not limited to English, Lit, Geography, Music, Art, Philosophy, and other non-technical courses."
Ahh, I see where you were going. tnff is certainly not familiar with academics and common understandings of academia.
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Old 04-06-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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Ahh, I see where you were going. tnff is certainly not familiar with academics and common understandings of academia.
I'd be careful with that.
Pretty much everyone knows the catch all definition stating that liberal arts = the study of more or less anything that isn't directed towards professional and technical studies/endeavours. To me that's just way too broad and creates much confusion.
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Old 04-06-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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I'd be careful with that.
Pretty much everyone knows the catch all definition stating that liberal arts = the study of more or less anything that isn't directed towards professional and technical studies/endeavours. To me that's just way too broad and creates much confusion.
What do you mean?
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