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Old 11-30-2009, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Laying blame where is belongs........

"If the partisan tables were turned, the GOP would waste no time laying the blame on Democrats. We need to do the same to build political capital for key fights ahead."

"In October, Barack Obama told a San Francisco audience about what it was like trying to deal with an economy he’d inherited in smoking ruins last January. “I'm busy … cleaning up somebody else's mess,” he said. “We don't want somebody sitting back saying, you're not holding the mop the right way… That's a socialist mop." As the audience applauded the line, Obama challenged Republicans to "Grab a mop, let's get to work."

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Old 11-30-2009, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Southwest Missouri
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If you want to "lay blame where it belongs" you might also want to put threads like this where they belong...
 
Old 11-30-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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The economic crisis is a true bipartisan effort. No one party could have accomplished this alone.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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The economic crisis is a true bipartisan effort. No one party could have accomplished this alone.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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Meanwhile the Goldman Sachs' and Hank Paulsons of the world are laughing their bottoms off because they are able to clean us out pretty much without resistance; they know we are so busy and distracted amongst ourselves with bickering over what party is more to blame, why we need a "black" president, a "woman" speaker of the house, and so forth.

We're too preoccupied with "Biggest Losers", "Survivors", and "Black Friday" sales at Wal-Mart to care.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 05:02 PM
 
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If you want to "lay blame where it belongs" you might also want to put threads like this where they belong...
Pardon me but I did "put it where it belongs". True, it does walk the thin line but it's about the mess our economy is in which is all about about money.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 07:27 PM
 
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While I consider the GW Bush Administration to be one of the worst, if not the worst, in our history, I don't blame this economic mess on that bunch of political hacks. The economic mess we are in now started decades ago and both parties have a great deal of blame to be shared for it. In fact I would tend to blame the democrats more than the republicans mainly for selling out to the banks and federal reserve. It was afterall the democrats that pushed the bank bailout for Bush.

Regardless of the blame it's Obama's problem now and he will be the one to answer for it in the next election. His apparent total sellout to the very bankers who caused this mess in the first place and are still profiteering greatly from it, is disappointing at best. In fact this is his big failure that I think upsets of many of his supporters and there is going to be hell to pay when the next election comes around. Obama's only saving grace is that is opposition at the moment is such a collection of wing nuts, idiots, right wingers, and neo-cons that most of the country won't take them seriously. It's a sad and miserable thing the choice we have now.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:35 PM
 
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The economic crisis is a true bipartisan effort. No one party could have accomplished this alone.
Nah, I would say it's more of a 55/45 type of effort.
 
Old 12-01-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Southwest Missouri
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Pardon me but I did "put it where it belongs". True, it does walk the thin line but it's about the mess our economy is in which is all about about money.
Did you actually read the article? The entire focus of that story is how Democrats are squandering political capital by not trying to blame Bush for the recession. The author even says that the recession isn't Bush's fault, but that's no reason to waste this "opportunity" to bash him. It's hardly an economic discussion.
 
Old 12-01-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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It's a sad and miserable thing the choice we have now.

About the only choice I see for most of US is individually take ourselves off the dollar as much as possible and let the top left and right destroy each other.
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