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Dairy and lots of protein and fats go a long way towards humans as babies, toddlers, children and teens meeting, " height potential."
Anyway, do you want some board of far away left-wingers deciding what you are allowed to eat?
What does left wingers deciders have to do with this?
Do babies eat nearly as much as adults? Their bodies and stomachs are a lot smaller. And they eating baby food. You make it sound like there will be no meat or dairy ever again if we dont also produce so much we end up wasting most of it.
And the "height" potential is largely genetics. Do you know how much I ate growing up? My parents owned a restaurant in NYC. I ate like the Son of a Odin. And I am still only 5'9" on a good day. And I ate only fresh meat plus veggies not fast food or junk food.
Plus its not how tall you are. Its how tall you are in comparison to everyone. If the average becomes 4'9" in the future then no one would really care. To them, people being 6'8" seem ridiculous as much as no one nowadays wants to be a 7 footer.
What does left wingers deciders have to do with this?
Do babies eat nearly as much as adults? Their bodies and stomachs are a lot smaller. And they eating baby food. You make it sound like there will be no meat or dairy ever again if we dont also produce so much we end up wasting most of it.
And the "height" potential is largely genetics. Do you know how much I ate growing up? My parents owned a restaurant in NYC. I ate like the Son of a Odin. And I am still only 5'9" on a good day. And I ate only fresh meat plus veggies not fast food or junk food.
Plus its not how tall you are. Its how tall you are in comparison to everyone. If the average becomes 4'9" in the future then no one would really care. To them, people being 6'8" seem ridiculous as much as no one nowadays wants to be a 7 footer.
Because all of this nonsense, to include "ecological economics", is from the political left.
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Everyone has a genetic height potential. To what degree that potential is met has more to do with nutrition than anything else.
So you come in 2in under your max potential. Who cares if you come out to 6'6" instead of 6'8"? As society we dont need to guarantee that.
Who cares? The person in question cares! And who exactly is society, to say what ought or ought not to be guaranteed? Next we'll hear that some sort of ghastly sacrifice is going to be required, or else. Or else... what?
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Regardless, its a finite planet you; growth cannot be infinite
Really? You probably also believe that Malthus was right. Yes, the square footage of earth's surface is physically finite. So what? Man's capacity to innovate and to manage resources is unbounded. There's a big universe out there, whether physicists regard it as being literally infinite or merely very large. The scope of our growth is limited only by our imagination. Or perhaps, by our politics.
Tell me you've never studied economics at the University level without telling me you've never studied economics at the University level:
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So, I know this is a thing in other countries, and I believe it should be for us in the USA, but I just cannot see it happening. Not with Big Business controlling the Government and people blindingly committed to tradition and technology. Still, I would love to have someone here give me some hopeful information.
Tell me you've never studied economics at the University level without telling me you've never studied economics at the University level:
University level? Well, yes I guess that's true. Freshman college level, yes.
Just a thought... what these "environmental economists" propose is supply-side economics. They want the supply of goods (the production) to drop significantly and that would FORCE people to demand less. In essence, they want you to consume less by either a) not making enough available or b) ration out a smaller supply.
Anytime I see some quackery like this, I see what the source is and just who the authors are. Sadly, you can't trust The Economist nor the Financial Times any more for your economics info, unless your politics align with theirs which the OP would probably love them. All of the authors are "environmental economists" and the article appears to be not much more than an amalgamation and circle jerk of their previous published works.
Who cares? The person in question cares! And who exactly is society, to say what ought or ought not to be guaranteed? Next we'll hear that some sort of ghastly sacrifice is going to be required, or else. Or else... what?
Really? You probably also believe that Malthus was right. Yes, the square footage of earth's surface is physically finite. So what? Man's capacity to innovate and to manage resources is unbounded. There's a big universe out there, whether physicists regard it as being literally infinite or merely very large. The scope of our growth is limited only by our imagination. Or perhaps, by our politics.
Innovate and manage resources means to do with less. The scope of our imaginary money is limited only by imagination. But it isnt real wealth.
I believe this is thread is about the macros of production. You and the other guy seem to think there will be no food left at all. If you want to play college basketball by all means if you think gorging yourself on more food than you actually need or beyond healthy levels, go ahead. It may be harder, but society does not need to guarantee everyone can easily do it at a whim.
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