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Old 10-07-2011, 01:17 AM
 
Location: SWUS
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I'm hoping it keeps up until Congress acts to restore balance to the economy. Having the majority of the wealth in the hands of a few leaves the rest of us fighting for their scraps.

Pitchforks and broomsticks!!
I'd love to see you try to re-distribute wealth with pitchforks and broomsticks. Most wealthy people won't appreciate that.
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:15 AM
 
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I don't understand what the protests are able to accomplish. Standing in the street with a sign in your hand doesn't take a nickle out of the elite's pockets. They are probably laughing. The time and place to effectively protest is at the voting booth in November 2013. Vote out ALL incumbents. Every one of them.
Ooops! Make that 2012
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Hard to decide which is worse, the arrogance of Wall Street or the idiocy of the protesters. That list of demands earlier in the thread was profoundly discouraging, although one must admit that not all the protesters can possibly be that clueless about reality.
From what I have read, that list as the Poster posted it is not representative of most of the demonstrators. It is most likely a list of exaggerations hyped by the media that picked up on the sensationalism of some radicals they interviewed. That is the way of the media, I know, as I am a trained reporter and was one when younger. The camera always seeks the radical angle, which sells.

Many demonstrators being interviewed admit that they lack focus and leadership, saying they are just forming as a movement. Many are against the endless Afghan war, others are fed up with a corporate government, others with the government, others with the symptoms of poor government such as high unemployment. Many are young frightened kids in their 20s and 30s who see no future for themselves with the way the country is headed. They are much more tuned into reality than the comfortably retired generation, as they are living the reality, and will be for a long time to come.

I am not saying I'm aligned with this movement, only that Democracy gives everyone fair hearings, hopefully, and their concerns will not be squelched by an other-than-Democratic ruling entity.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Are you talking about lining them up against the wall?
Capitalistic profit motive, I plan to start manufacturing a line of American Manufactured, Solar Powered, Guillotines. The Solar Power doesn't really do much but it helps qualify as a Green Project
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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They've got more of a conservative view, and might want these little protests to disappear, singling out one person's view and making the entire movement seem insane seems like a good way to do so...
Yes, that is what I'm saying in my post, above. That's what happens in most of the demonstrations and protests. I remember the early student demonstrations against the Vietnam War when the media deliberately focused in on the most scraggly hippies to interview on camera, filming the most radical of the signage. Having been a student of journalism and the media, I laugh when people insist the media are liberal. The media are owned by a handful of powerful "families." Washington media are the most conservative, rarely reporting the complexities and different viewpoints and perspectives in the news (if they do, it's usually polarized views, such as radical vs. ultraconservative).

At any rate, do not be surprised to see the efforts of those who want to minimize the impact of any peoples' demonstrations seeking to radicalize and marginalize them. It is the way we keep the dominant system in place. Unfortunately, so many movements do not know how to make a strong, articulate case statement that can truly make change. One really appreciates Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights movement all the more after contemplating this...
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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From what I have read, that list as the Poster posted it is not representative of most of the demonstrators. It is most likely a list of exaggerations hyped by the media that picked up on the sensationalism of some radicals they interviewed. That is the way of the media, I know, as I am a trained reporter and was one when younger. The camera always seeks the radical angle, which sells.

Many demonstrators being interviewed admit that they lack focus and leadership, saying they are just forming as a movement. Many are against the endless Afghan war, others are fed up with a corporate government, others with the government, others with the symptoms of poor government such as high unemployment. Many are young frightened kids in their 20s and 30s who see no future for themselves with the way the country is headed. They are much more tuned into reality than the comfortably retired generation, as they are living the reality, and will be for a long time to come.

I am not saying I'm aligned with this movement, only that Democracy gives everyone fair hearings, hopefully, and their concerns will not be squelched by an other-than-Democratic ruling entity.
One of the things that make me wonder is that every time you see possible Police over reaction, swinging a baton over their heads or squirting Pepper spray all over, it seems to be a white shirted supervisor doing it. Makes me wonder if they were just too important tol actually attend the riot control classes.

I sent the demonstrators some pizza's the other night, they are protecting my pension from the GOP too
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:34 AM
 
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I sent the demonstrators some pizza's the other night, they are protecting my pension from the GOP too
Nice to see someone looking out for number one.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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I don't understand what the protests are able to accomplish.
The only thing I can see happening is that the federal/state governments may make a ploy toward finding someone or a large company to prosecute for the financial meltdown (basically a scapegoat). Granted if I remember correct they’ve already federal government has brought forth some cases against a couple of companies with mixed results.
This is the only possible "tangible" thing I can see happening out of these protests.

Really in the end this is a political thread instead of a business issue thread.

But let me ask you guys. Let say these protesters are actually are looking to effect wall street/financial sectors(and actually let's add coporate lobbyist) in a meaningful way, as oppose to show just showing anger and frustration. Basically how would they achieve the "effect" they are looking for?

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Old 10-07-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Nice to see someone looking out for number one.
I think most Police, Firemen and Teachers have the point by now, that the GOP wants to give their pensions to the """"Job Creators"""

I guess the Supervisors at NYPD missed the part of Crowd control Training when the said " the moment you raise your baton over your shoulder there will be five TV Cameras pointed at you and a demonstrator on the ground crying don't hit me again". Seems like I keep seeing white shirted supervisors acting out while their subordinates stare at them through pepper sprayed eyes

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Old 10-07-2011, 08:52 AM
 
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I think most Police, Firemen and Teachers have the point by now, that the GOP wants to give their pensions to the """"Job Creators"""
And "they" want to create jobs in China etc...
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