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Old 06-29-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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When I picked up my puppy at the Humane Society they mentioned Kennel Cough... which I know something about. He'd just had the Bordatella vaccine (up the nose) two days earlier.

But they also said that he might get something she called "snot nose"...
which this morning - by definition - he's got. Yesterday I noticed a couple of little coughs after playing. Not often and not too much. Everything else looks good - stools, etc.

Part of the adoption is a free trip to a veterinarian so I plan to bring him this week...

Is "snot nose" something that will clear up on his own or should he take antibiotics?

I also have two parrots. Is there anything that dogs can give to birds????

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Old 06-29-2008, 11:51 AM
 
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Dogs won't get anything from birds, but vice versa isn't true - they CAN get psittacosis and cryptococcosis!

Re: the kennel cough. The vaccine doesn't provide instantaneous protection. It takes a couple of weeks for the antibodies to be produced. Kennel cough is the catch-all name for tracheobronchitis, which is can be caused by any one of several organisms, not just Bordetella. The vaccine covers several, but not all of these organisms and has an efficacy of about 85-90%. So even in the face of a vaccination, the dog can still become ill. The cough of kennel cough is unmistakeable - like the dog is choking.

If you have ANY doubt about what your dog has, keep him away from other dogs, even if they've been vaccinated and have the vet examine him.

Best of luck.
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:21 PM
 
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Dogs won't get anything from birds, but vice versa isn't true - they CAN get psittacosis and cryptococcosis!

Re: the kennel cough. The vaccine doesn't provide instantaneous protection. It takes a couple of weeks for the antibodies to be produced. Kennel cough is the catch-all name for tracheobronchitis, which is can be caused by any one of several organisms, not just Bordetella. The vaccine covers several, but not all of these organisms and has an efficacy of about 85-90%. So even in the face of a vaccination, the dog can still become ill. The cough of kennel cough is unmistakeable - like the dog is choking.

If you have ANY doubt about what your dog has, keep him away from other dogs, even if they've been vaccinated and have the vet examine him.

Best of luck.
I've never heard anyone call anything "snot nose"...

Think it means "bad cold"... He's not feeling too good today.

I'll bring him tomorrow. Poor baby.
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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I'm so sorry that you're having this problem. I just adopted an elderly chihuahua from a rescue who got her from the city shelter in the Bronx, dumped there because her family didn't want her any more. HORRIBLE. She's quiet as a mouse and causes no problem. I don't understand.

Just for the record, dogs don't get colds. The viruses that cause colds need cooler environments than canine respiratory trees in order to produce an infection. I'm an infectious diseases specialist (human) and this is how I earn my living. They just don't get colds. But that doesn't mean she doesn't have an infection. Glad you're going to the vet. Let us know what he/she thinks.
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:57 PM
 
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I just picked him up @ 4: pm on Friday. Yesterday I noticed a tiny cough.... this morning he had a runny nose. Not coughing...

So, after I posted this and read your post I opened the package of information that they gave me. Paragraph 2 in a little brochure they give you named "HELP, My newly adopted animal is sick!..." says:

"Our dogs and puppies also can contract another unidentified infection that we call "snot nose". Symptoms include coughing, a heavy mucous discharge, lethargy and fever. This is a serious infection requiring veterinary care. We have had very good luck treating this with an antibiotic called Doxycycline. Other commonly used antibiotics have not been as effective."


So, I called them and asked them to give me some of this Doxycycline... I purchased a 7 day supply from them. As I was leaving they said that sometimes dogs have to go through more than one perscription to get rid of this...

Any idea what it is by the perscription and the information provided?

Why is everyone saying "Good Luck"...???? They said "good luck" when I left the Humane Society today. I'm getting paranoid....

Anyone???
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:12 PM
 
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I just picked him up @ 4: pm on Friday. Yesterday I noticed a tiny cough.... this morning he had a runny nose. Not coughing...

So, after I posted this and read your post I opened the package of information that they gave me. Paragraph 2 in a little brochure they give you named "HELP, My newly adopted animal is sick!..." says:

"Our dogs and puppies also can contract another unidentified infection that we call "snot nose". Symptoms include coughing, a heavy mucous discharge, lethargy and fever. This is a serious infection requiring veterinary care. We have had very good luck treating this with an antibiotic called Doxycycline. Other commonly used antibiotics have not been as effective."


So, I called them and asked them to give me some of this Doxycycline... I purchased a 7 day supply from them. As I was leaving they said that sometimes dogs have to go through more than one perscription to get rid of this...

Any idea what it is by the perscription and the information provided?

Why is everyone saying "Good Luck"...???? They said "good luck" when I left the Humane Society today. I'm getting paranoid....

Anyone???
That is an older antibiotic that is also used in humans. When I got a nasty infected cat bite, it was so cheap there was no co-pay and it worked beautifully (unlike the expensive ampicillin that I was allergic to).

People say "good luck" in a kind way, meaning, we wish you well, or, here's to a long and happy life with your pet. Just an informal and short way of saying it, not really meaning "boy, you are gonna need some luck to survive this."
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:25 PM
 
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I just researched doxycycline some on the internet. In tablet form it really needs to be wrapped in food (not dairy) or it can cause other problems in the esophagus... so I'll use meatballs.

I hope you're right! (about the luck) I've been dealing with a really sick older dog for quite a while now.... I want my new friend to be healthy!

told you I was getting paranoid
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:49 PM
 
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You may want to make sure your dog has a meal with the Doxy. It's pretty hard on the stomach, depending on the dose. My dog has recurring Ehrlichia (a tick disease) and that's the drug of choice, so I have lots of Doxy experience. My dog will throw up if he doesn't eat enough with it. Also, it's usually much cheaper to get Doxy from a human pharmacy than from the vet. I used to pay about 3 times as much when I got it from the vet.

I hope your pup feels better soon.

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Old 06-30-2008, 12:16 AM
 
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Dogs won't get anything from birds, but vice versa isn't true - they CAN get psittacosis and cryptococcosis!
I had no idea that parrots can pick up psittacosis from dogs!

If the OP's parrots are over the age of 2, they should be fine (at least from the psittacosis...I'm not familiar with the cryptococcosis ). Once parrots are 2 years of age, they have increased immunity to many of the parrot diseases and you don't need to worry as much.

I wonder why I never heard that before ? My avian vet warned us to be careful about being in contact with other parrots - so if we went to a bird show (to buy supplies), we changed clothes and shoes right away upon arriving home before we got in contact with our parrots. But she never warned us about our dogs transmitting anything.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:18 AM
 
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No, dogs can get it from parrots.

And with doxycycline it's important not to give it with anything with a high calcium content. The calcium binds the antibiotic and prevents it from being absorbed. It's not an issue of pill esophagitis, but rather that the antibiotic won't be absorbed and just goes right down and out.
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