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Old 02-15-2018, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Link #1: Discussing urban "regions" which includes the suburbs, not just cities proper.

Link #2: Quite short, not too convincing as there are few numbers, and there's this: "The authors of this new report, however, admit that assessing emissions is not an exact science because different countries and cities employ different methodologies for counting CO2 emissions, making a precise like-for-like comparison difficult."

Link #3: Refers to "urban areas" which again, includes suburbs. Seems to take a negative view of urbanization. "For example, urban populations consume much more food, energy, and durable goods than rural populations."

Link #4: Didn't get much out of that agenda.

What I would like to see is a comparison between homes in Denver and homes in the suburbs. I have personally known people in Denver who had long commutes into the suburbs, for example. I know suburban dwellers (me, for one; also my husband) who have short commutes.
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Old 02-24-2018, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Link #1: Discussing urban "regions" which includes the suburbs, not just cities proper.

Link #2: Quite short, not too convincing as there are few numbers, and there's this: "The authors of this new report, however, admit that assessing emissions is not an exact science because different countries and cities employ different methodologies for counting CO2 emissions, making a precise like-for-like comparison difficult."

Link #3: Refers to "urban areas" which again, includes suburbs. Seems to take a negative view of urbanization. "For example, urban populations consume much more food, energy, and durable goods than rural populations."

Link #4: Didn't get much out of that agenda.

What I would like to see is a comparison between homes in Denver and homes in the suburbs. I have personally known people in Denver who had long commutes into the suburbs, for example. I know suburban dwellers (me, for one; also my husband) who have short commutes.
Hey you are more than free to deny the facts of the matter also Denver as city is quite spread out and sprawling so of course people are going to drive more. In real cities like NYC or London the residents use less energy and fuel and are thus far more sustainable than a standard sprawling city that is common in the US. Let us hope for our sake however that our leaders and developers move towards more sustainable solutions instead of more urban sprawl.
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Old 03-02-2018, 01:08 AM
 
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Default Will initiative 66, Cap on new housing pass?

I’m legitimately worried that this might pass by a wide margin. I haven’t seen a proposal this idiotic in a long time. Many people will vote for it without thinking about the consequences it might add. Unfortunately the Supreme Court gave them the go ahead to put it on the ballot.
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Scary thing is I could see this passing. Too many home owners that are already settled and have nothing to lose. They are also more likely to vote then the younger generation.
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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The construction industry needs to be part of the solution to our growing traffic problem instead of building as much as they can wherever they can without regards to the cars involved. That could be funding better mass transit, helping to pass laws that create only smart growth, or something else.
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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The construction industry needs to be part of the solution to our growing traffic problem instead of building as much as they can wherever they can without regards to the cars involved. That could be funding better mass transit, helping to pass laws that create only smart growth, or something else.
That is true but voting yes on this, won’t helo the situation. There should be initiatives to help promote smart growth and transit, but this one isn’t it
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:56 AM
 
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That is true but voting yes on this, won’t helo the situation. There should be initiatives to help promote smart growth and transit, but this one isn’t it
People get fed up and swing the pendulum the other direction. I doubt this will initiative will pass, but if the development community doesn't wake up then the next one will pass.

"Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered."
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Old 03-02-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Question: If this passes how much extra growth will this mean for Pueblo county?

5,000 houses/ apartments more a year? 10,000? More or less? Asking for a friend. Lol just joking asking for me!
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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I haven’t driven in the Denver area in over 4 1/2 years. Has the traffic gotten significantly worse since then?
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