06-29-2008, 05:21 PM
Location: Plano, TX
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What is the difference between the 3 Plano Senior High Schools? I hear good things mostly regarding Plano West Senior and Plano Senior, but which one is "better" academically and provides more extracurricular activities and opportunities? Can anyone give me personal insight regarding Plano West vs. Plano Senior and which one would be a better choice if I could choose which district to move into? And I'm open to hearing about Plano East as well, not to leave them out
. I'm also interested in the ethnic diversity in each of the 3 schools.
Some points about my family that may help you out:
- Asian American
- Open to (actually prefer) competitive academic environments
- Desire very good performing arts programs (i.e. theater, choir, band)
- Not as big on athletics, but would prefer that they have decent tennis, volleyball, basketball programs
- Would probably purchase a house around 400-600k range
Thank you in advance for any information!
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06-29-2008, 10:02 PM
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Well, I can give you the stats:
Plano West
1963 students
6.9% low income
3.6% English as 2nd language
67.3% white
8.2% African-American
17.8% Asian
6.6% Hispanic
.2% Native American
8.3% Special Ed
Plano Senior
2572 students
7.2% low income
4.2% English 2nd language
65.5% white
6.0% African-American
19.6% Asian
8.6% Hispanic
.3% Native American
9.7% Special Ed
Plano East
2584 students
17.2% low income
6.5% English 2nd language
54.7% white
14.0% African-American
13.6% Asian
17.4% Hispanic
.3% Native American
12.8% Special Ed
06-30-2008, 08:00 AM
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Sweet, this is a subject I'm actually an EXPERT in. I went to Plano East, Class of 2002, and have many, many friends that went to the other schools.
West, Central, and East, with a few exceptions, are zoned based on income level. For the house you want, you're basically pricing yourself out of East, with the exception of a few houses on the Far East/Murphy area.
In terms of academic programs, all the Plano schools have very similar programs, except for one exception - Plano East has IB, so kids from all over Plano attend it. I think, internally, the rational behind putting IB at East was to draw smart kids from the district to the "poor side of town".
I did the IB program for 2 years, but decided to drop it. It forces you to be really broad, and you can't really "focus in" on classes you really want to take. For example, you can't take AP Physics and AP Chemistry with IB. Similarly, I did not want to take Spanish for 5 years (which you'd have to do). My sisters completed it though, and they loved it.
In terms of hyper-academic programs, I actually think Plano Senior is the most competitive environment, followed by Plano West, then followed by East. I'm pretty sure that Plano Senior has the highest percentage of asians, but West and East also have high percentages as well.
As an anecdotal trend, I always noticed that the kids from West got into the best schools. They always seemed to have 5-8 Ivy leaguers, Plano had 4-6, and East always had 1-4. This neatly falls into the income distribution of Plano though, so I've never been able to figure out if it was straight up academics or just wealth.
As far as tennis and extracurriculars go, I played tennis throughout high school. West has an absolutely ridiculous tennis team. If your child is not playing at a superchamp level, he probably will not make the team. Their team is STACKED and they have gone to state a lot. Plano and Plano East take turns as to which team is better. My years, we were way better than Plano, but then fell off afterwards. Now the Plano team is pretty good (I think they have 1-2 superchamp level players, several champ level players), and the East team is terrible (I think we only have 1 champ level player).
I can't speak to volleyball and choir. Hope this helps!
06-30-2008, 10:37 AM
Location: Plano, TX
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In terms of academic programs, all the Plano schools have very similar programs, except for one exception - Plano East has IB, so kids from all over Plano attend it. I think, internally, the rational behind putting IB at East was to draw smart kids from the district to the "poor side of town".
Thanks for the great info FarNorth and Unexpected! This is very helpful.
Sorry for my ignorance, but what does "IB" stand for? It's interesting to see that Plano Senior and East are larger schools than West, and that they all (esp. Plano Senior) have a pretty large Asian population (much larger than I thought they would). I always wondered why "Plano West" seemed to always be the stand out in people's minds and discussions, but it may be because of the income levels as you had mentioned, not necessarily because the school is actually better (let me know if this is an incorrect assumption).
If anyone has any insight to the performing arts opportunities in these schools, please let me know. I think one thing I'd be concerned about that Unexpected eluded to, is that if your child is not a superstar in their activity of choice at a large school, they may not have as much chance to be involved. Hopefully they can still participate, even though it may just be at a lower level (i.e. "A" Team vs. "B" Team).
06-30-2008, 11:02 AM
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IB stands for International Baccalaureate. They have a website at
International Baccalaureate if you want to read more about the program.
I think most people talk about Plano West because West Plano receives all the attention. It's definitely the "nicer" part of Plano, and a lot of people find that it fits the typical suburbia mindset.
As far as performing arts go, anyone that wants to can be in orchestra, choir, or band. They are usually different levels (even at the middle school level), so anyone who wants to participate can. If you're into drama and theater, you have to audition for those. I've never participated in any of that, so cant give you any of those details, unfortunately.
We have a huge asian population because of the telecom corridor (and all the engineers that go along with that).
06-30-2008, 09:37 PM
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Consider at what grade level your child(ren) will enter PISD. If elementary, middle or high school then they have more of a shot at excelling at P-West. If there are coming in as 11th or 12th graders making any competitive sports team or drama group is less likely - and that is the reality.
07-01-2008, 12:36 PM
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FYI - there are a lot of Asians in the middle of Plano, in neighborhoods that feed into Plano Senior. An elementary school near me (Skaggs) is over 50% Asian, I have heard. I don't know where the Web site is that gives racial makeup of schools. If the best school is your priority, move into the area for Rice Middle School, which goes into Plano Senior. Rice is the best middle school. There are several Exemplary elementary schools that feed into Rice. In Estates of Russell Creek, you can get a 4,000 sf house with a pool for around $450K. That neighborhood feeds into Rice and Plano Senior.
07-01-2008, 01:41 PM
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FYI - there are a lot of Asians in the middle of Plano, in neighborhoods that feed into Plano Senior. An elementary school near me (Skaggs) is over 50% Asian, I have heard. I don't know where the Web site is that gives racial makeup of schools. If the best school is your priority, move into the area for Rice Middle School, which goes into Plano Senior. Rice is the best middle school. There are several Exemplary elementary schools that feed into Rice. In Estates of Russell Creek, you can get a 4,000 sf house with a pool for around $450K. That neighborhood feeds into Rice and Plano Senior.
Our kids are still young, so we're planning to move into the area based on the elementary schools first, but are looking long term and want to situate ourselves in the feeder district to a good middle school and high school. To be honest I've done more research on West Plano schools and hear a lot about Brinker, Barksdale and Centennial, but it sounds like I need to do more research on the districts that feed into Plano Senior as well. I'm telling you, most of the sites out there really put West Plano on a pedestal, so it's hard to think of moving anywhere else in Plano because I don't hear any other perspective...until now. Thanks for the insight everyone, keep it coming. BTW - I would LOVE to get a 4,000 sf house for $450K... right now in CA we're in a 1500 (barely) sf condo for $650k....ridiculous...and the schools in this area are just average.
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honestly, in my mind, there's not a whole lot of difference between West Plano and Central Plano. I would just find the house that you like the best!
07-01-2008, 11:19 PM
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honestly, in my mind, there's not a whole lot of difference between West Plano and Central Plano. I would just find the house that you like the best!
just a quick drive through the student parking lots of those two schools might quickly change your mind! Most of the KIDS in West Plano drive nicer cars than I do! But overall have heard great things about all three academically...for me, if we stay in Plano, I would probably try to stay in central Plano (Plano Senior HS) over Plano West, because I prefer my child to be in a more economically-diverse (ok, not really...but more so than west plano) area...with second choice being Plano East, though I prefer being on the west side of 75 due to proximity to shops/ highways/ etc.
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People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)