Crystal Ball...Collin County (Dallas, Plano: HOA, townhouse, buyer)

[Leonard123]

Originally Posted by ilovepizza1975

I've seen a lot of Carrollton, less of Lewisville. I don't think I want to live in either one.



+10000 for trees. I'm a big fan of trees; I don't like new developments with twiggy little trees (if there are any at all). Some of the lots aren't even large enough to plant good trees without compromising foundations or underground utilities.

Some of those trees can be found up in parts of Highland Village, the Corinth/Hickory Creek area, and parts of Denton. I personally liked Highland Village better than Flower Mound. Corinth and Denton will be substantially less expensive.

[ilovepizza1975]

Originally Posted by Leonard123

Some of those trees can be found up in parts of Highland Village, the Corinth/Hickory Creek area, and parts of Denton. I personally liked Highland Village better than Flower Mound. Corinth and Denton will be substantially less expensive.

Corinth and Denton are too far out for me.

[Leonard123]

Originally Posted by ilovepizza1975

Corinth and Denton are too far out for me.

Then I don't know why you would even think about Flower Mound. Denton is much more urban and less "far out" than Flower Mound. Corinth is more in between.

[Radraiderz2004]

Originally Posted by ilovepizza1975

I've seen a lot of Carrollton, less of Lewisville. I don't think I want to live in either one.



+10000 for trees. I'm a big fan of trees; I don't like new developments with twiggy little trees (if there are any at all). Some of the lots aren't even large enough to plant good trees without compromising foundations or underground utilities.

You'll love Shady Shores! Lots of trees, spread out feeling and great schools in the Ryan High feeder pattern. It's not too far away compared to FloMo.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by Leonard123

Then I don't know why you would even think about Flower Mound. Denton is much more urban and less "far out" than Flower Mound. Corinth is more in between.

Leonard, I think you need to look at the map again. FloMo is much closer to both Fort Worth and Dallas than Denton and Corinth.

[Leonard123]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

Leonard, I think you need to look at the map again. FloMo is much closer to both Fort Worth and Dallas than Denton and Corinth.

I was talking about the city itself. If "close in" meant close to Dallas or Fort Worth, then it would make far more sense to move to one of those cities.

[ilovepizza1975]

Originally Posted by Leonard123

Then I don't know why you would even think about Flower Mound. Denton is much more urban and less "far out" than Flower Mound. Corinth is more in between.

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

Leonard, I think you need to look at the map again. FloMo is much closer to both Fort Worth and Dallas than Denton and Corinth.

Thanks Wittgenstein's Ghost, I was about to say the same thing myself.

I went to a few open houses over the weekend in Plano and it's utterly depressing looking at what $500k buys nowadays. One realtor excitedly showed us a house "recently upgraded" with builder grade gray carpet. The house was in serious need of a paint job in every room. Light bulbs were burned out everywhere. Paint & light bulbs are easy fixes, but every window without exception had a blown seal and needed to be replaced. Some were so badly fogged that they looked frosted. The house was built in the late 1990s and didn't have GFCI receptacles in the kitchen or the bathrooms.

The front yard sloped down towards the house (side yard too) and the house's backyard was too small for a shed. No covered areas anywhere.

The house itself was a 3-2 just a smidge over 2,000 square feet.

She expected the house to sell in the next 48 hours for over asking ($495k). She's probably right about that. Horrible. Just horrible.

We saw another in central Plano right next to the Haggard farm near Custer and Park. When I say "right next to the Haggard farm" I mean right there on a corner next to it. I have no objection to looking out my kitchen window and seeing llamas resting underneath trees (which is what was going on there that day). However, that farm won't be a farm forever. It might be 2 years or it might be 20 years but that land will be developed someday. God only knows what they'll put on it. The house itself had no lawn but the front yard was covered in who knows how many cubic yards of cheap rocks. It would probably have been cheaper to lay turf; rocks are kind of expensive, even the cheap ones, when you're talking about enough to cover an entire front yard of a corner lot. The fact that they didn't tells me that the sprinkler system is probably shot beyond repair. Having had one completely redone myself, I know that it's pretty damn expensive. So the flippers (HAD to be a flip house) covered the front yard with rocks instead. Awesome. Asking price for this house near Park & Custer right next to a farm-that-won't-be-a-farm-forever that backs up to Park Blvd itself: $600,000. We didn't even bother to get out of the car.

[Leonard123]

Originally Posted by ilovepizza1975

Thanks Wittgenstein's Ghost, I was about to say the same thing myself.

I went to a few open houses over the weekend in Plano and it's utterly depressing looking at what $500k buys nowadays. One realtor excitedly showed us a house "recently upgraded" with builder grade gray carpet. The house was in serious need of a paint job in every room. Light bulbs were burned out everywhere. Paint & light bulbs are easy fixes, but every window without exception had a blown seal and needed to be replaced. Some were so badly fogged that they looked frosted. The house was built in the late 1990s and didn't have GFCI receptacles in the kitchen or the bathrooms.

The front yard sloped down towards the house (side yard too) and the house's backyard was too small for a shed. No covered areas anywhere.

The house itself was a 3-2 just a smidge over 2,000 square feet.

She expected the house to sell in the next 48 hours for over asking ($495k). She's probably right about that. Horrible. Just horrible.

We saw another in central Plano right next to the Haggard farm near Custer and Park. When I say "right next to the Haggard farm" I mean right there on a corner next to it. I have no objection to looking out my kitchen window and seeing llamas resting underneath trees (which is what was going on there that day). However, that farm won't be a farm forever. It might be 2 years or it might be 20 years but that land will be developed someday. God only knows what they'll put on it. The house itself had no lawn but the front yard was covered in who knows how many cubic yards of cheap rocks. It would probably have been cheaper to lay turf; rocks are kind of expensive, even the cheap ones, when you're talking about enough to cover an entire front yard of a corner lot. The fact that they didn't tells me that the sprinkler system is probably shot beyond repair. Having had one completely redone myself, I know that it's pretty damn expensive. So the flippers (HAD to be a flip house) covered the front yard with rocks instead. Awesome. Asking price for this house near Park & Custer right next to a farm-that-won't-be-a-farm-forever that backs up to Park Blvd itself: $600,000. We didn't even bother to get out of the car.

I would love to have a yard free of any grass! Our neighborhoods ought to start getting on board with zeroscaping.

If you want to be close to them, why not move to Dallas or Fort Worth?

I still sit back amazed at how cheap McKinney is compared to every city around it. Here in Stonebridge, nicely remodeled houses over 2000 square feet in the low $400s will sit there forever. You can't give them away. I don't get it.

[ilovepizza1975]

Originally Posted by Leonard123

I would love to have a yard free of any grass! Our neighborhoods ought to start getting on board with zeroscaping.

If you want to be close to them, why not move to Dallas or Fort Worth?

Xeriscaping is one thing; a yard full of rocks is another. It looks barren and lifeless and since the front yard was very sunny it seems like it would be very hot as well.

I still sit back amazed at how cheap McKinney is compared to every city around it. Here in Stonebridge, nicely remodeled houses over 2000 square feet in the low $400s will sit there forever. You can't give them away. I don't get it.

McKinney doesn't seem all that cheap when I look at listings online unless the houses are east of 75. I won't go east of 75 in Collin County at all.

I'm not seeing a lot of listings fitting that description in Stonebridge Ranch. If anything they seem overpriced for what they are.

[Leonard123]

Originally Posted by ilovepizza1975

Xeriscaping is one thing; a yard full of rocks is another. It looks barren and lifeless and since the front yard was very sunny it seems like it would be very hot as well.



McKinney doesn't seem all that cheap when I look at listings online unless the houses are east of 75. I won't go east of 75 in Collin County at all.

I'm not seeing a lot of listings fitting that description in Stonebridge Ranch. If anything they seem overpriced for what they are.

Well, not far off anyway. These would have had multiple offers on day one had they been in any surrounding city including Plano.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8...57896627_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...26644613_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...69649942_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5...26648291_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...57357599_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...60308668_zpid/