Greenhill vs. Hockaday admit

[walker1977]

https://www.ivyscholars.com/ut-austi...eptance-rate/#


This has a flow chart with UT true acceptance rate.

[debtex]

Originally Posted by FarNorDFW

I don’t think in state has to be 90%. Every year 12-15% of the incoming freshmen class is from out of state or out of country. UT is intentionally opaque about it, but that leaves 10-13% of the incoming class spots for holistic admission. On the high end that’s around 900 seats for in state non-auto admit applicants. BUT every in state student who is not an auto admit has to fit into that bucket. Football alone is going to take around 20 of those spots each year. Men’s basketball will take a few. Other teams and departments will get a few set aside spots. Do key faculty members get preference? They also use the holistic pool to help increase enrollment of students from under represented minority groups. The whole thing is wild and I for one would love to know the actual numbers.

If you look here you'll find the historical Texas enrollment rate. They're keeping it as close to 90% as you could expect given attrition, yield, etc.

https://data.utsystem.edu/data-index...itted-enrolled

2023: 88%
2022: 88%
2021: 87%
2020: 90%
2019: 89%

They aren't great about releasing admissions numbers, but they're required to publish all kinds of data around enrollment, which is helpful.

[debtex]

Originally Posted by walker1977

https://www.ivyscholars.com/ut-austi...eptance-rate/#


This has a flow chart with UT true acceptance rate.

These are 2020 numbers. Applications have gone from 57,200 in 2020 to 73,000 in 2024, with no increase in the number of spots in the class.

If you keep the ratios of in-state & out of state constant and extrapolate for the increased applications, that makes in-state holistic admissions a 7.15% rate.

UT hasn't grown with the state. The system has, but UTA & UTD don't have the same clout that UT Austin does.

[Luka4MVP]

Originally Posted by serger

There are no legacy admissions at UT or A&M

This is surprising--looked it up after your comment. Thanks for the correction

[walker1977]

Originally Posted by debtex

These are 2020 numbers. Applications have gone from 57,200 in 2020 to 73,000 in 2024, with no increase in the number of spots in the class.

If you keep the ratios of in-state & out of state constant and extrapolate for the increased applications, that makes in-state holistic admissions a 7.15% rate.

UT hasn't grown with the state. The system has, but UTA & UTD don't have the same clout that UT Austin does.

Oh wow, didn’t realize those were old numbers….. Not a whole lot of spots for non-auto admits for sure!

[DFW_CHI_ELSEWHERE]

I used to think UT admissions were some unsurmountable ledge until I watched 6 separate families get their kids in via the CAP program. None of these kids were big achievers, with most of the finishing in the lower half of their class at pretty far flung suburban publics.

Each of these kids went to UTSA or UT-Arlington for a semester, achieved the relatively low bar implied in the CAP program, and moved to Austin. The backdoor is pretty wide, but it makes it much harder to get into certain colleges like Engineering or Business. Still, if you want to graduate from UT there are plenty of ways to do it.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by DFW_CHI_ELSEWHERE

I used to think UT admissions were some unsurmountable ledge until I watched 6 separate families get their kids in via the CAP program. None of these kids were big achievers, with most of the finishing in the lower half of their class at pretty far flung suburban publics.

Each of these kids went to UTSA or UT-Arlington for a semester, achieved the relatively low bar implied in the CAP program, and moved to Austin. The backdoor is pretty wide, but it makes it much harder to get into certain colleges like Engineering or Business. Still, if you want to graduate from UT there are plenty of ways to do it.

All successfully completing CAP requirements does is guarantee one admission somewhere into UT-Austin's Liberal Arts school and also submit apps per competitive admit majors if desired.

CAP requires 30 hours, not a semester.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by Taub201

Remember that anyone who graduates in the top 10% gain auto admission to A&M business and first year general engineering. Therefore, a TJ or Hillcrest kid gets auto admission but a middle of the road or third quarter SM boy might not, depending upon test scores. However, will that kid succeed? Maybe. The third quarter boy might attend SMU on full pay. The first quarter kid is in the running for presidential scholarship at SMU (full ride) or Provost ($30K/year). That said, most SM families don't need the money and will send Johnny to the best school they can (i.e., Duke, Northwestern, Michigan, Vandy, UVa, etc.).

Kids gaining admission to UT need to be top 10% at SM for b-school or engineering with top scores. However, I've known quite a few of those that turn UT McCombs, even Honors, down for Ivy-types for business. These weren't family business people but double income parents with mid-six figure incomes.

HPHS graduates attending UT have declined precipitously over the last few years. Now, UT is down to the 30s per class when it used to be over 70. Many attending are those cool kids with very solid leadership that aren't going into engineering or business. Communications, economics, education, social work...

Your first couple of points about A&M business and engineering are incorrect.

1. Mays Business School is competitive/holistic admit only.

2. My daughter has two engineering degrees from A&M......engineering admission is competitive/holistic as well.

3. Further, every Aggie admit must take A&M's Math Placement Exam. The exam dictates where a kid's A&M math journey begins.