School ratings for DISD, Plano, Frisco, Allen, Richardson, McKinney (Dallas: house, best school)

[hamiltonpl]

Originally Posted by Ramona72

Actually, it's three separate schools. TAG and SEM were just ranked the top schools in the nation. Their list of awards and achievements is a mile long. Have people in Plano not heard of these schools?

People in Plano think the only air-conditioning available in DISD schools is the cross-ventilation caused by all the bullet holes.

[tallscot]

Yes, I've heard of Talented and Gifted and Science and Engineering Magnet. They are great schools! I'm so happy for you that you like where you are living and love the schools your kids attend.

[txgolfer130]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

Would you rather your kid get in to Texas Tech / Baylor or Duke/ Vanderbilt? That's the upgrade in college SAT's a 150-200 point average will buy you. 200 points is a SIGNIFICANT difference in SAT land. Even 75 points- getting a 750 on the math section will make a student a LOT more competitive than a 675.

Or, viewed another way, the white students at every single non-Plano ISD CoCo schools (Allen, Frisco, McKinney) are ALL being out-scored on the SAT by white students at schools regularly dismissed as "inferior" to all CoCo schools on this forum-Lake Highlands, Richardson, JJ Pearce, and Woodrow. It's the minority students in CoCo that are scoring much closer to the whites in CoCo than the DISD minority students do.

You say it yourself...competitive. Not better performing, competitive. SAT scores are one factor to the overall picture of said student. Students scoring between 2000 and 2200 will be much more likely viewed by the "other" factors. While I agree that students in the 1500 v. 1700 range will be viewed as much more of a gap, it will be more weighted towards the SAT scores. Those who score in the upper ranges will be "competitively" pitted against each other w/ the SAT score being a small factor in consideration.

This is another factor that I meant to bring up in the other post, but never got back around to that thread. The SAT scores have 3 components to them. The scores you've posted before only appear to have 2 of the components to the score(s). Why is that?

Oh, and my oldest...going to Yale. 2190 SAT. #3 in her class.

[biafra4life]

Originally Posted by FarNorthDallas

On your list "Lake Dallas High" and "Lake Dallas Middle School" are not in DISD. They are in Lake Dallas ISD which is a suburban district north of Lewisville.

Plano has other middle schools such as Frankford Middle School and Murphy Middle School.
Richardson ISD has a lot more middle schools including Parkhill, Westwood, Lake Highlands, and Forest Meadow.

The magnet schools in Richardson are not selective, like they are in Dallas ISD. One is court ordered and the others are a way to manage overcrowding and demographics. There is no testing to get in and I have never ever heard of any one being denied. Most are just programs inside comprehensive schools. The vast majority of the student body in these schools are not in the magnet program. It's just a way to attract whites to schools otherwise losing whites. It is possible, by the way, to be denied from your neighborhood school due to it being full.

School ratings are going to drop drastically this year (the list is usually published August 1 for the prior year). The last couple of years many schools and districts benefitted from the Texas Projection Measure (oh don't get me started on that) but now that the TPM has gone away, ratings will really suffer. I think DISD and FWISD already warned about their huge forthcoming drops. Course it will be interesting to see what it does to the suburban school districts.

It hit us here in Garland too, my daughter's school dropped from Exemplary to Recognized...bummer

[TurtleCreek80]

Originally Posted by tallscot

If posting those results is "putting down the entire district", oh well.

Do you not remember you post from Tuesday, where you were trying to steer someone away from Lakewood (with exemplary rated Lakewood Elementary and a high school that regularly gets top students into Ivy League & other Top 20 schools) with this gem-->



Yeah, that area of town might be best for them. If you don't have kids, you don't care about the quality of the schools.


If you're slandering the best schools DISD has to offer- which compete with ANY Collin County elementary and has a non-minority population which far outperforms their non-PISD CoCo peers- I can only imagine what you think about the schools in DISD that actually ARE academically sub-par.

[tallscot]

Originally Posted by hamiltonpl

People in Plano think the only air-conditioning available in DISD schools is the cross-ventilation caused by all the bullet holes.

Yes, we were just discussing that at the last meeting. That's not true?

[biafra4life]

Originally Posted by tallscot

Yes, we were just discussing that at the last meeting. That's not true?

OK here's my question to you, since you are the OP...if you are happy with your kid's school in Plano, then why do you care about what's going on in other districts??? they dont affect you or your kid in any way shape or form. I know I dont look at other districts...all I care about is the school my kid is in and how she's doing. End of story. And for what it's worth, dont you think PISD SHOULD be doing better than Dallas? Plano does not have the high percentage of reduced lunch/english as a second language crowd that Dallas has to deal with, thus Plano should be wiping Dallas of the map. Y'all bragging about Plano is akin to a healthy 21 year old guy beating a 75 year old man in a sprint. Nothing to really brag about in my book.

[tallscot]

Yeah, that area of town might be best for them. If you don't have kids, you don't care about the quality of the schools.

If you're slandering the best schools DISD has to offer- which compete with ANY Collin County elementary and has a non-minority population which far outperforms their non-PISD CoCo peers- I can only imagine what you think about the schools in DISD that actually ARE academically sub-par.

Yes, my opinion of the schools was that they weren't that great. I based this opinion on what I've read in the past. After being told that the elementary schools were exemplary, I wondered why he didn't mention the middle school and high school. I checked the data, and then I posted the data.

I think it's misleading to people wanting to move here to ignore the middle school and high school and only talk about the elementary school.

So what did I do? I posted facts, data, and everyone can see it and judge for themselves.

What did a woman who visited Lakewood say in another thread?

I musr say, after my tour at Lakewood Elementary, we decided against sending our daughter there, at least for next year. She is used to lots of teacher attention and a small school envirnoment. She was very overwhelmed when we visited. I too, was somewhat taken aback by how overcrowded the classes were (mostly in a physical way: in the mods, the kids could barely walk around the desks, and the poor teachers had piles of stuff stacked on the floor). Because of looming budget cuts, I only see this getting worse.

If that is the best DISD has to offer, I guess I'm slandering the entire district. Oh well.

[Ramona72]

Originally Posted by tallscot

If that is the best DISD has to offer, I guess I'm slandering the entire district. Oh well.

Sigh. Lakewood Elementary is a Blue Ribbon, Exemplary school. The classrooms hum with activity, the halls are filled with educated, involved parents, and the events are filled with community supporters. If someone walks around Lakewood and dismisses it because of piles on the floor, then they deserve that shiny new mediocre school in Frisco.

[Lakewooder]

Originally Posted by Ramona72

Actually, it's three separate schools. TAG and SEM were just ranked the top schools in the nation. Their list of awards and achievements is a mile long. Have people in Plano not heard of these schools?

I was quite baffled to see a Plano resident commenting on a DMN story about how Plano's school tax money goes to Dallas!!!