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Old 11-20-2022, 08:13 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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Everyone is pulling for twitters free speech now. Before it was a bunch of censors but now it’s back to normal.
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Old 11-21-2022, 05:21 AM
 
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Well, then you should appreciate how bizarre Musk’s actions are.

Example, say you have a department of 10 people. Only two are valuable. Logic would dictate that the 8 are fired and the 2 valuable employees are kept. Instead, Musk leaves the decision on who goes entirely to the employees. So, the 2 valuable employees could decide to leave, and the remainder decide to stay. Or, all 10 could decide to leave. That’s nutty.

By the way, I think value is better measured by productivity and critical knowledge rather that hours worked.
Musk bizarre? I think he is doing just fine. His company....his rules.
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Old 11-21-2022, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Musk bizarre? I think he is doing just fine. His company....his rules.
Sure, he has every right to make bizarre decisions, just as previous management had every right to make the decision to ban Trump. In both cases, actions come with consequences, including criticism.
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Old 11-21-2022, 07:10 AM
 
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Not necessarily. He can reach more people on Twitter and let them know there will be some messages posted exclusively on Truth. So it could actually increase Truth user base.
Well, his comment was that he had no plans to Tweet because he was concentrating on his own platform, so we will see.
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Old 11-21-2022, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Sure, he has every right to make bizarre decisions, just as previous management had every right to make the decision to ban Trump. In both cases, actions come with consequences, including criticism.
And employees deciding to jump ship rather than await the next mercurial decision from on high.
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Old 11-21-2022, 08:13 AM
 
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He came in and caused mass chaos right off the bat. Didn't just rescind work from home, made it "effective immediately". Many people need time to transition back to an office, they have to find child care, some took parents out of nursing homes because they were now home. Then fires half the staff, then asks half of them to come back. The rescinds his order rescinding remote work. Then issues them an ultimatum. "Meet my demands or leave". Who the F starts running a company with that kind of BS attitude? I have worked at many nursing homes that got bought out when I was there, and no one comes in threatening people.

If you give someone an ultimatum, this is what you can expect. They didn't start this out with hostility, HE did.


The reason people equate him with Trump and love t hate him is because he is a BULLY like Trump.
Right- it seems totally sensible for people to leave a job when he fired half their coworkers and made those remaining come back to the office and apparently take over the workload of the fired half with no additional pay raise. Clearly if the remaining crew has to work 60-80 hours a week to do what needs to be done, he went way too far on his firings. He deserves whatever comes to him.
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Old 11-21-2022, 08:41 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Right- it seems totally sensible for people to leave a job when he fired half their coworkers and made those remaining come back to the office and apparently take over the workload of the fired half with no additional pay raise. Clearly if the remaining crew has to work 60-80 hours a week to do what needs to be done, he went way too far on his firings. He deserves whatever comes to him.
Unless those people were only working 10-15 hours a week from their homes and not pulling their load.

Facebook just laid off 10,000 people. I'd bet those people will not be missed and their work can easily be absorbed with little effort.
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Old 11-21-2022, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Right- it seems totally sensible for people to leave a job when he fired half their coworkers and made those remaining come back to the office and apparently take over the workload of the fired half with no additional pay raise. Clearly if the remaining crew has to work 60-80 hours a week to do what needs to be done, he went way too far on his firings. He deserves whatever comes to him.
And a lot of the people remaining are on H1B visas or otherwise can't up and leave their jobs, because their residency in the US is sponsored by Twitter. So they're almost held hostage in a rapidly changing and unpredictable workplace, which is how few people do their best work.
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Old 11-21-2022, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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This toxic cancel culture needs to stop. Instead of having some time to settle down and wait for clarity, people just flip out about different platforms changing hands. Zuckerberg is far from being a liberal but he’s done damage control better than Elon has.

But when is it gonna end? Civil war 2?

Nope, I plan to be "On the Other Side," sung by the Settlers, 1966. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aM-IVp71w8 The you picture legend says, The Setters, which is incorrect. It's The Settlers.

then latter by The Seekers, https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...2C+the+seekers, which is more popular version.
Written by, Tom Springfield, Gary Osborne and Bob Sage

IOW,
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
YHMV

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Old 11-21-2022, 11:32 AM
 
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Unless those people were only working 10-15 hours a week from their homes and not pulling their load.

Facebook just laid off 10,000 people. I'd bet those people will not be missed and their work can easily be absorbed with little effort.
He didn't know squat about any of these workers as individuals. The ultimatum said "long work hours at high intensity". That makes it sound like you had to agree your life would belong to Twitter.

I don't think they will have any problems, engineers and tech folks aren't going away anytime soon. Despite the layoffs recently, these are the folks best positioned for the future, which is going to be all tech. I doubt any are going to have problems.

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