[jp03]

Originally Posted by Cambium

lol. Yup.. I almost bought one.. nothing was in stock so it was a good thing. I hate wasteful spending. $1000 would of been sitting there doing nothing for years.

Seaking of which... Wow, what a period we went through those years huh? When was the last time we had a historic storm outside winter?

We will never see a Irene /Sandy combo again here that quick. As for October snows? Fluke.

Not to say another big storm cant hit here.

[htfdcolt]

Bite your tongue, gents! ;-)

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by jp03

We will never see a Irene /Sandy combo again here that quick. As for October snows? Fluke.

Not to say another big storm cant hit here.

It wasn't so much the weather as the inadequate preparation and response by CL&P.

[ctguy87]

Originally Posted by jp03

We will never see a Irene /Sandy combo again here that quick. As for October snows? Fluke.

Not to say another big storm cant hit here.

As bad as Irene and Sandy were, we are still prone to bigger storms. Irene was a decaying tropical storm and Sandy was a glancing blow. If we were to get hit by a 1938 Long Island Express style hurricane, the effects would be enormous.

Frankenstorm was a fluke. I don't think we will see 1-2 feet of snow on fully leafed trees again in our lifetimes.

[Cambium]

Originally Posted by ctguy87

If we were to get hit by a 1938 Long Island Express style hurricane, the effects would be enormous.
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Would be another one for the books for sure. But then we wonder why damage and storms "seem" bigger now a days.. more structures, more population, social media, technology and reporting every event is partly to blame.

Originally Posted by ctguy87

Frankenstorm was a fluke. I don't think we will see 1-2 feet of snow on fully leafed trees again in our lifetimes.

I learned never say can't or never with weather. (say that 10 times fast. lol) Here's the thing... it's happened again after that... just not in our area. So these Early Fall leaf snowstorms are happening, for 1 area to get hit all the time is rare..

South Dakota got their share last year when an Early September snowstorm hit with leaves on the trees. Widespread damage and power outages happened.

October 4, 2013 Casper, WY got crushed with snow and leaves on trees.

End of September 2013, Riverton Wyoming Earliest snowstorm on record

That's just U.S.. Canada had their share of record early snowstorms recently too.

Calgary End of September 2014, took weeks to clean up.

It can happen anywhere, anytime... If we are back in an 1800 weather pattern, we don't have records to show how common Fall snowstorms are in multiple areas.

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Would be another one for the books for sure. But then we wonder why damage and storms "seem" bigger now a days.. more structures, more population, social media, technology and reporting every event is partly to blame.



I learned never say can't or never with weather. (say that 10 times fast. lol) Here's the thing... it's happened again after that... just not in our area. So these Early Fall leaf snowstorms are happening, for 1 area to get hit all the time is rare..

South Dakota got their share last year when an Early September snowstorm hit with leaves on the trees. Widespread damage and power outages happened.

October 4, 2013 Casper, WY got crushed with snow and leaves on trees.

End of September 2013, Riverton Wyoming Earliest snowstorm on record

That's just U.S.. Canada had their share of record early snowstorms recently too.

Calgary End of September 2014, took weeks to clean up.

It can happen anywhere, anytime... If we are back in an 1800 weather pattern, we don't have records to show how common Fall snowstorms are in multiple areas.

But I'm sure they're less common here than all those places you mentioned.......at the same time I'll agree that if it happened once you can never say 'never'

[jp03]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Would be another one for the books for sure. But then we wonder why damage and storms "seem" bigger now a days.. more structures, more population, social media, technology and reporting every event is partly to blame.



I learned never say can't or never with weather. (say that 10 times fast. lol) Here's the thing... it's happened again after that... just not in our area. So these Early Fall leaf snowstorms are happening, for 1 area to get hit all the time is rare..

South Dakota got their share last year when an Early September snowstorm hit with leaves on the trees. Widespread damage and power outages happened.

October 4, 2013 Casper, WY got crushed with snow and leaves on trees.

End of September 2013, Riverton Wyoming Earliest snowstorm on record

That's just U.S.. Canada had their share of record early snowstorms recently too.

Calgary End of September 2014, took weeks to clean up.

It can happen anywhere, anytime... If we are back in an 1800 weather pattern, we don't have records to show how common Fall snowstorms are in multiple areas.

But all those places are prone to early snows...... is that a fair comparison?

[Cambium]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

But I'm sure they're less common here than all those places you mentioned.......at the same time I'll agree that if it happened once you can never say 'never'

September?? No. First snows are usually end of October in Riverton and that's for an inch.. The Early snowstorms I listed never happened before that early or that much, therefore unusual/not common. Read the threads and posts. Pretty interesting. Higher elevations I'm sure it's more common, but not at lower elevations and the amounts that fell. Power was out for weeks from tree damage.. doubt that's a common thing.

Originally Posted by jp03

But all those places are prone to early snows...... is that a fair comparison?

Sure it's fair... Ours came October 29th. We've had snowstorms in November-December so it's only few weeks away like theirs. They aren't prone to snowstorms "that" early.

A stat I would love to find out is... how common is it to snow with leaves on the trees anywhere in North America... I assume usually it gets cold first so leaves are change or drop otherwise we would be seeing more devastation stories with snowstorms. Overall we dont usually get big snowstorms at low elevations in Sept/Early October.

[7 Wishes]

Wow!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/07/us...smtyp=cur&_r=0

[Cambium]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

Wow!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/07/us...smtyp=cur&_r=0

Yup, posted that in the Summer thread in the Weather Forum. You guys should be more active there.. everyone from all over the world posts and is interesting to see. Now heading to Mid July and Boston still has a snow pile. Glaciers are forming in Boston! lol Speaking of which..... Glaciers on Mount St Helens is Growing as well as 90% of the Globe.