[East of the River]

Originally Posted by hartford_renter

What points have you been echoing?

I didn't really get a lot of substance from the article, what was his point?

In my opinion these are the causes of CT's economic failure

• too much spending on social services & the poor due to Democratic ideology
• too much spending on public unions due to Democratic political links to unions
• too much taxes due to Democrats need for more spending on the poor and unions
• a progressive tax system that relies soley on the rich and income redistribution
• the rich realize that they are getting shafted & the resulting migration of businesses & productive citizens
• the result is lower tax revenues & more debt

Finally the end result is bankruptcy for the state of CT

YOUR WERE WARNED CONNECTICUT!!!

It's mostly us not funding things properly over the years really. We have overspent for sure. But if we had been balancing a budget instead of playing kick the can for 40 years things would be much better. The vast majority of spending increases in recent years are all to pay down debt and pensions. As far as I can tell no programs have been expanded other then federally paid for medicaid in the last 8 years.

My favorite is still Roland with the tax refund. There was no surplus he just used fuzzy math to buy support.

[Henry10]

Originally Posted by Sigequinox

"Rep"....sorry my quota on repoint tou been maxed out for months now.

Same, buddy. Keep posting. I enjoy them.

Originally Posted by Beeker2211

You should actually read it, it's pretty scathing on CT's irrational business relations as well (which would tend to be blaming the Dems). But you're pretty much proving my point: the more affluent residents tend to use the cities to make their money and then wall off the wealth generated therein to the issues that the cities have. It's not them being greedy per se, it's a bug in the extreme home rule and a lack of regional vision and commitment that in a more global market what happens to your neighbouring municipalities, be it Avon or Hartford, matters. It's a matter of not wanting to invest in the future for short term parochial thinking...

Look around -- does it seem that productive citizens of CT do not want to invest for the future? If your definition of the future is same old, same old Socialism and re-distribution of wealth by a a central Govt -- then we are talking apples to cucumbers of course.

Originally Posted by Lalalally

Honest question: when exactly did CT's downward spiral begin?

Fiscally, sometime in the late 70s early 80s when CT started to underfund its pensions.

Originally Posted by Lalalally

Malloy should just resign at this point. He's an utter disaster and leaves a vast majority of us sick to our stomachs

Malloy will not resign. Afterall, CT taxpayers aren't really his constituency, so he could care less.

Originally Posted by hartford_renter

What points have you been echoing?

I didn't really get a lot of substance from the article, what was his point?

In my opinion these are the causes of CT's economic failure

• too much spending on social services & the poor due to Democratic ideology
• too much spending on public unions due to Democratic political links to unions
• too much taxes due to Democrats need for more spending on the poor and unions
• a progressive tax system that relies soley on the rich and income redistribution
• the rich realize that they are getting shafted & the resulting migration of businesses & productive citizens
• the result is lower tax revenues & more debt

Finally the end result is bankruptcy for the state of CT

You just defined Socialism.

[BPt111]

6 arrested at state Capitol following budget protest - Connecticut Post

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by Henry10

You just defined Socialism.

Huh? In Socialism, the state owns the means of production. If you're going to spout Fox News nonsense, at least get your terms right.

[Matrix2791]

Originally Posted by BPt111

6 arrested at state Capitol following budget protest - Connecticut Post

Higher taxes on the wealthy?????? Yeah great idea lets drive out even more rich people, because that worked so great that last two tax increases.

[RunD1987]

Rather see income tax be replaced with deducted taxes from income for healthcare and education. Improve healthcare in CT be the first State in the Nation to create a single payer health insurance via a voluntary open health insurance market created by the State.

Tax for community college. Pay's for CT residents to attend community colleges tuotion free if full time, but must live in CT for 2 year's afterwards or pay back tuition to the State. 250
% tuition covered for Student's going part time with no regulation having to stay in the State after completion.

Privatize infrastructure in the State.

Create electronic tolls and do away with the Gas tax.

Increase sales tax to 8%. Special sales tax on motor vehicles and boats of 5%. Used sales tax of 5% on purchases of $5,000 more out of State. Bussineses purchasing out of State are exempt from this used sales tax.

Restructure counties and form county government's. Cap property taxes at 50 mill rate.

Towns and cities only finance their police, EMS services, refuse services , and library.

Flat bussiness tax of 6%. Bussiness in CT with more than 100 employees are also taxed 2% to fund healthcare in the State, 2% for tuition paid colleges, and 2% to protect CT environment. Tax rebates for businesses in CT that work to lower carbon footprint and have 25% of their workforce utilizing tuition reimbursement.

Replace minium wage in the State with a living wage.

Excess tax on marijuana, alcohol, and cigarettes to fund universal mental health services at public or non profit health facilities.

Universal Healthcare for CT residebts 65 and older.

Do away with Medicaid and Medicare in the State.

Decriminalize victimless crimes in the State.

Do away with hate crimes, hate speech, and affirmative action in the State. Equal rights protected and for all in the State.

Allow private businesses to run tgeir own bussiness with little interference from CT Government. Ecveptipm being they respect not harming or destroying life of others, property, and animals.

Legalize fireworks in CT.

Support the 2nd Ammendnent in the State.

Become a "just cause" State regarding employment.

Restructure the State pension system and Retirement funding for State Employees.

Increase funds to increase affordable housing projects in the State. In addition to, increase funds to attract science and computer jobs to the State.

Lower State four year collehe tuition rates. Offer tax breaks to CT companies that hire graduates from any CT college.

This will help bring CT back.

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

Rather see income tax be replaced with deducted taxes from income for healthcare and education. Improve healthcare in CT be the first State in the Nation to create a single payer health insurance via a voluntary open health insurance market created by the State.

1. Vermont abandoned their effort.
2. California single payer isn't looking good, either: California proves single-payer health care is too expensive

[RunD1987]

Originally Posted by HeadedWest

1. Vermont abandoned their effort.
2. California single payer isn't looking good, either: California proves single-payer health care is too expensive

That's because they are going for the universal model.

We need the HAA type model of insurance created by the State. You .ca. build your own insurance. The cost and care is transparent. Then there would be a tier of various insurances to choose from that are income adjustable. However, if you make over the average income in the State based off household size charged an excess fee on adjustable income insurance.

Offer discounts on monthly payments based off healthy lifestyle.

Expand health savings accounts and allow more places to create these services to offer to the Public.

Don't make insurance mandated. Also allow health care facilities right to refuse service's if no insurance, outside of emergency care.

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by HeadedWest

1. Vermont abandoned their effort.
2. California single payer isn't looking good, either: California proves single-payer health care is too expensive

Single payer only works if it's done nationally so the Federal government can slash labor costs across the board. Vermont only has 630,000 people. It's not like they can tell Dartmouth-Hitchcock over the river they're only going to pay them 50 cents on the dollar. If they tell everybody at Fletcher-Allen/UVM that they're taking a 50% pay cut, they'd all leave the state.

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

Single payer only works if it's done nationally so the Federal government can slash labor costs across the board. Vermont only has 630,000 people. It's not like they can tell Dartmouth-Hitchcock over the river they're only going to pay them 50 cents on the dollar. If they tell everybody at Fletcher-Allen/UVM that they're taking a 50% pay cut, they'd all leave the state.

Government slashing labor costs? When has that ever happened?

Also, CA has a few more people than VT.