Is Pueblo that bad? (Colorado Springs, Pueblo West: transplants, 2014, apartment)

[DrDog]

Hey, Pueblo made a list - sad.

https://247wallst.com/special-report...o-live-in-3/2/

[bluescreen73]

Comparatively speaking Pueblo isn't terrible, but it's definitely the least desirable of the Front Range metros to live in. It's further from the mountains, has more of a desert southwest feel, and has notable issues with drugs and gang activity.

[McGowdog]

Pueblo is a good place to be a big fish in a small pond.

Crime is rough but not so much if you don't hang out after 2am. Don't break down when around the lower east side, parts of Bessemer, etc.

Colorado City, Rye, San Isabel, and Beulah are about 30 minutes away. Pueblo Reservoir is just up the road in Pueblo West.

Pueblo has a bit of character and is not pretentious nor overpriced as some places might be up the Front Range. Oh, we could start a conversation about overcrowding and traffic.

Colorado Springs may have better stats on violent crimes than Pueblo, but I don't see how. When watching the local news, they spend about 22 minutes talking about CoSprings murders, dead bodies on trails, home invasions, apartment shootouts, arson fires, carjackings, pedestrian killings on dangerous roads, water main breaks which deplete what little water they have, etc., then they spend 4 minutes talking about how windy and dry it's gonna be, then, 2 minutes about how bad the sport teams suck, then two minutes about Pueblo crime.

Schools are rough in District 60, but the District 70 schools are good, such as in Pueblo West, Colorado City and Rye, then on the Mesa towards the Ark Valley such as at Pueblo County high school. Charter schools such as McClellan are great.

[TCHP]

Hmm. This list also includes Atlanta, Salt Lake City, Miami, and Memphis, all of which seem to be fairly attractive places due to their growth. Text in place for many of the city descriptions in this list was a simple cut and paste of unemployment and crime percentages. Duh.

Pueblo may be the least desirable of the Front Range cities, but it also has a number of interesting features to it that can really help turn it around, if properly utilized. Despite population growth of basically zero since 1970 and a constant struggle with economic diversity and crime, steps can be taken to really step up its standing. Handle the crime, change the mindset that outsiders are suspect, and economic change will come.

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by McGowdog

Pueblo is a good place to be a big fish in a small pond.

Crime is rough but not so much if you don't hang out after 2am. Don't break down when around the lower east side, parts of Bessemer, etc.

Colorado City, Rye, San Isabel, and Beulah are about 30 minutes away. Pueblo Reservoir is just up the road in Pueblo West.

Pueblo has a bit of character and is not pretentious nor overpriced as some places might be up the Front Range. Oh, we could start a conversation about overcrowding and traffic.

Colorado Springs may have better stats on violent crimes than Pueblo, but I don't see how. When watching the local news, they spend about 22 minutes talking about CoSprings murders, dead bodies on trails, home invasions, apartment shootouts, arson fires, carjackings, pedestrian killings on dangerous roads, water main breaks which deplete what little water they have, etc., then they spend 4 minutes talking about how windy and dry it's gonna be, then, 2 minutes about how bad the sport teams suck, then two minutes about Pueblo crime.

Schools are rough in District 60, but the District 70 schools are good, such as in Pueblo West, Colorado City and Rye, then on the Mesa towards the Ark Valley such as at Pueblo County high school. Charter schools such as McClellan are great.

Oh, and did I say Barricaded Suspects with firearms? Westmeadows apts on South Academy right now.

Oh, on Friday, a parking lot shootout in Colorado Springs near Platte and Powers, leaving one dead, three injured, including a teen,

[SilverAng]

McGowDog. But one thing they do not talk about in Colorado Springs are the number of suicides. If you look at the police blotter, there are a heck of a lot every week.

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by SilverAng

McGowDog. But one thing they do not talk about in Colorado Springs are the number of suicides. If you look at the police blotter, there are a heck of a lot every week.

What data source are you using?

I just looked at six weeks of the COLO SPGS police blotter and never saw a single suicide.

Homicides are occurring at a rate of one every ten days, about 3 per month, i.e., 36 so far in 2018.

[TCHP]

McGowdog, I thought we were talking about Pueblo, not Colo Spgs, but since we're on that topic...Yes, Pueblo violent crimes rate, murder rate, assault, rape, robbery, property crime, vehicle theft, etc are all half of what Colo Spgs numbers are according to Uniform Crime Reports from 2017. The problem with that is Pueblo is a quarter of the size of Colo Spgs.

Like I said earlier, handle the crime, and it will change the trajectory of the city. Then Pueblo will have to learn how to deal with transplants. That will present a whole new set of challenges that may take another generation to overcome.

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by TCHP

McGowdog, I thought we were talking about Pueblo, not Colo Spgs, but since we're on that topic...Yes, Pueblo violent crimes rate, murder rate, assault, rape, robbery, property crime, vehicle theft, etc are all half of what Colo Spgs numbers are according to Uniform Crime Reports from 2017. The problem with that is Pueblo is a quarter of the size of Colo Spgs.

Like I said earlier, handle the crime, and it will change the trajectory of the city. Then Pueblo will have to learn how to deal with transplants. That will present a whole new set of challenges that may take another generation to overcome.

I'd like to know exactly where the OP lives and their motive for starting the thread.

So let's just take a peak at some of Pueblo County's neighbors, starting with the one to the north of it...

The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Colorado Springs is 1 in 25. Based on FBI crime data, Colorado Springs is not one of the safest communities in America. Relative to Colorado, Colorado Springs has a crime rate that is higher than 88% of the state's cities and towns of all sizes.

So let's take the philosophical approach, shall we?

"There's enough bad in the best of us and enough good in the worst of us that it behooves the best of us to badmouth the rest of us."

Originally Posted by 80skeys

I was born and raised in New Mexico. Pueblo always reminded me more of a NM town than a Colorado town.

We love to drive down to Santa Fe for a few days and kick back, maybe take in a Christmas style burrito or two at the Pantry or Tune up Cafe, then a homemade tamale or Rellano from the to-go cart there. You run into a famous actor or actress once in a while down there.

[80skeys]

I was born and raised in New Mexico. Pueblo always reminded me more of a NM town than a Colorado town.