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i don't think anyone outside the state of west virginia believes that. my husband is from oklahoma and a huge fan, i know he doesn't believe that.
no national media outlets believe that. they sure posted every rumor or article they could to fill space the last couple months, but i haven't read those facts anywhere. FSU and Clemson fans don't belive that.
Of course it does make more sense that some WVU fan who spends his life on messageboards, who has yet to play a single game in the conference, knows more about the b12, fsu, and clemson than their own fans do..so maybe you are right.
let me guess, the dude and his alter-ego yoda told you?
Fsu and Clemson fans were disappointed the big 12 rejected them. They don't think highly of the ACC either. In fact only 3-4 posters from the Pittsburgh forum seem to share your view.
Everyone saw those teams express interest in the big 12 only to be told the big 12 was not expanding. I'm not sure the source of the rumours but if you are right and they made up the fact the fsu and Clemson were willing to leave the ACC based off nothing only makes the ACC look worse. Their fans were sure excited to get of the ACC.
The national media outlets don't have a good opinion of the ACC. The universal opinion is that it is a weak and unstable football conference vulnerable to raids. I'm sure your husband is a smart guy but he is hardly a relevant source safak.
What I don't get is your love of the ACC. Pitt sure didn't like it when they were not a member. As soon as it gets in some fans made a complete 180 and became cheerleaders. If you ever get out they will drop back on, the aCC sucks, train.
In fact only 3-4 posters from the Pittsburgh forum seem to share your view.
actually you are dead wrong on that one. go to GT's scout site, where an espn employee has given the straight facts and shot down every rumor the day it posted(which is one reason i was never worried when the rumor mongering started, and why you were wrong 17 times out of 17 on your tirades on the pittsburgh forum here)
see the marathon 'expansion' threads. probably the most active(outside of the wvu of course) probably close to 1000 posts in total but the most informative
all GT, Miami, UNC, NCState, most clemson and fsu(not named doc), a lot of texas fans, oklahoma..and even a Wake and KSU fan or 2 have done is laugh at the rumors, make fun of wvu fans, and predict the next rumor every time the 'done deal' dates passed. they all call it the 'butt hurt wvu fans' (their words, not mine) trying to get back at the conference that stole their rival and rejected them.
actually you are dead wrong on that one. go to GT's scout site, where an espn employee has given the straight facts and shot down every rumor the day it posted(which is one reason i was never worried when the rumor mongering started, and why you were wrong 17 times out of 17 on your tirades on the pittsburgh forum here)
see the marathon 'expansion' threads. probably the most active(outside of the wvu of course) probably close to 1000 posts in total but the most informative
all GT, Miami, UNC, NCState, most clemson and fsu(not named doc), a lot of texas fans, oklahoma..and even a Wake and KSU fan or 2 have done is laugh at the rumors, make fun of wvu fans, and predict the next rumor every time the 'done deal' dates passed. they all call it the 'butt hurt wvu fans' (their words, not mine) trying to get back at the conference that stole their rival and rejected them.
Go to any forum with posters from FSU and Clemson and you will them bashing the ACC, and upset at the Big 12 for rejecting them. Most Big 12 fans didnt care for FSU or Clemson since they are not that good.
Like I said, rumours on the internet was enough for FSU and Clemson to let the the Big 12 know they were interested in an offer. The fans and officials from the school were excited to get out of the ACC. However, the Big 12 was not expanding much to their dissapointment. So you were right not to worry about them leaving but for the wrong reasons. They were interested but the Big 12 was not.
I know Pitt fans are unhappy about the ACC's situation. They basically got out of the Big E only to join a conference in the same situation.
Everyone, except for the schools stuck in the ACC, were happy to see the ACC implode. They get no respect in football and no respect for their behavior. Hell Pitt fans hated the ACC until Pitt got trapped in it. Now all the sudden they love it, which is what everyone is laughing at. We will be laughing harder when you are begging to get out and if you do get out when you all pretend you always hated it.
If N C State has decent defensive backs, they should beat ut in the game at Atlanta. The little orange doesn't return ANY experienced running backs...none. I'll say N C State 31 - ut 20
The only conference the Big 12 has successfully raided is the Big East. Yet WVU and TCU don't equal Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri and A&M. You better look west, because no ACC school will defect to the Big 12.
Are you KIDDING?!! WVU beats the HELL out of Mizzou and and ESPECIALLY Colorado!
I'm an OU fan, and WVU BEAT OU the last time they played. VERY worthy opponent! Congrats on that win WVU, you deserved it.
TCU is up and coming BIG TIME. Wisconsin/TCU Anyone?
A&M. I truly regret that loss. they are a GREAT football school.
And the BXII diesn't want ACC schools.Why would the BXII raid such a weak conference?
I remind you this is a FOOTBALL thread, so any references to basketball, volleyball, basket weaving, etc.. Are totally irrelevant.
Are you KIDDING?!! WVU beats the HELL out of Mizzou and and ESPECIALLY Colorado!
TCU is up and coming BIG TIME. Wisconsin/TCU Anyone?
A&M. I truly regret that loss. they are a GREAT football school.
And the BXII diesn't want ACC schools.Why would the BXII raid such a weak conference?
I remind you this is a FOOTBALL thread, so any references to basketball, volleyball, basket weaving, etc.. Are totally irrelevant.
True on all accounts, especially the part about A&M. The North teams (minus Nebraska!) could all leave and no one would care.
As for Colorado, I was always surprised they never rebounded back to the high level they were playing at in the late 80's and early 90's. Something was definitely wrong there with their leadership.
True on all accounts, especially the part about A&M. The North teams (minus Nebraska!) could all leave and no one would care.
As for Colorado, I was always surprised they never rebounded back to the high level they were playing at in the late 80's and early 90's. Something was definitely wrong there with their leadership.
Great post Bass! I can't wait for FOOTBALL my friend!
Are you KIDDING?!! WVU beats the HELL out of Mizzou and and ESPECIALLY Colorado!
I'm an OU fan, and WVU BEAT OU the last time they played. VERY worthy opponent! Congrats on that win WVU, you deserved it.
TCU is up and coming BIG TIME. Wisconsin/TCU Anyone?
A&M. I truly regret that loss. they are a GREAT football school.
And the BXII diesn't want ACC schools.Why would the BXII raid such a weak conference?
I remind you this is a FOOTBALL thread, so any references to basketball, volleyball, basket weaving, etc.. Are totally irrelevant.
Welcome to the BXII MOUNTAINEERS!
Thank you!
We are glad to be in the Big XII!
Honestly, we were surprised, and honored to get into the Big XII. It is the best conference for WVU, except for the distances.
In the SEC we would have been middle of the pack, but in the Big XII we play in the second best football conference and have the potential to be a leader.
I apologize for Safak. This is not even about the conferences to them, but some Pitt vs WVU grudge they have going on. Perhaps they are upset that WVU ended the rivalry with wins and football and basketball.
Also, I understand why the Big XII rejected FSU & Clemson. However, for selfish reasons I want some ACC teams and Big E into the Big XII. Mainly it would be nice to have closer teams and old rivals. No ACC team brings anything to the table football wise, except for VT which brings a little, but for personal preference I would love a Big 16 with a eastern division.
However, remaining at 10 teams is probably the smart thing to do. It keeps the football good, and the revenue high.
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they are a GREAT football school.
) could all leave and no one would care. 
Something was definitely wrong there with their leadership.
