What if? Cleveland Browns and Cleveland Cavaliers name change (Canton: layoffs, land)

[RaisedRustbelt]

I support changing the Browns to Bulldogs, that makes sense. Burning River Rockers sounds good though I dont think there is anything wrong with the name Cavaliers and I like my Indians the way they are thank you.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

Burning River Rockers

I think there's an antiseptic for that.

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I actually kinda like the Cleveland Spiders. I would support a change back to that.

Think of all the fun you could have with that! Unleashing thousands of them in the stands ...

Hey, what about the Cleveland Mayflies? I hear they've hatched ... Maybe that would break the June Swoon.

[Peregrine]

I always liked the Cleveland Falcons. or the Cleveland Peregrines.


Cleveland ranks 4th for the highest number of Peregrine Falcon nests within the city limits behind some of the largest cities in the US.

I even submitted that when the Monsters were asking for suggestions for their name.

[Cleverfield]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

I always liked the Cleveland Falcons. or the Cleveland Peregrines.


Cleveland ranks 4th for the highest number of Peregrine Falcon nests within the city limits behind some of the largest cities in the US.

I even submitted that when the Monsters were asking for suggestions for their name.

You just want them named after you .

[JR_C]

Originally Posted by RaisedRustbelt

I support changing the Browns to Bulldogs, that makes sense. Burning River Rockers sounds good though I dont think there is anything wrong with the name Cavaliers and I like my Indians the way they are thank you.

I didn't know there was a Cleveland Bulldogs team until this evening; very interesting! But, if Cleveland went from Browns to Bulldogs, wouldn't that be kinda like Massillon and Canton McKinley switching mascots?

[Joke Insurance]

Originally Posted by L2DB

It's already based on the local Indian culture, obv.

I thought the Cleveland Indians name was based on the first Native American Indian MLB player, who played for the Cleveland Indians.

Or am I wrong?

Originally Posted by YaFace

Indians would be Spiders

What is the history behind that name?

[YaFace]

Back in the late 1800s the National League Cleveland team was called the "Spiders" because they had several tall, and real lanky players. They set a record for futility in 1899 going 20-134. The owners of the team switched every good player to the same St. Louis team they also owned. Haha maybe not the best in terms of history I guess.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by Joke Insurance

I thought the Cleveland Indians name was based on the first Native American Indian MLB player, who played for the Cleveland Indians.

Or am I wrong?



What is the history behind that name?

The truth behind Sockalexis is much different than what the team wants you to believe.

An Act of Honor or Exploitation

Two aspects of the story are particularly salient. First, Sockalexis is not mentioned in the stories recounting the selection of the name. Second, the Plain Dealer reported that the nickname was "but temporarily bestowed" until such time as the team could "earn some other cognomen which may be more appropriate" ("Baseball Writers Select...", January 17, 1915, Part Three, Page One). This statement does not support the notion that the name was intended to permanently pertain to the team let alone permanently honor a figure who did not warrant mention at the time the selection was announced.

[YaFace]

Oh that's a legit source, c'mon now man! I am glad that this is just a message board and not real life, because I don't know how some of you people walk without falling down.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by YaFace

Oh that's a legit source, c'mon now man! I am glad that this is just a message board and not real life, because I don't know how some of you people walk without falling down.

Did you read it?

An Act of Honor or Exploitation?:

The Cleveland Indians’ Use of the Louis Francis Sockalexis Story

by Ellen J. Staurowsky, Ed.D.

Associate Professor, Sport Sociology

Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY

607-274-1730, staurows@ithaca.edu



This article was published in

Sociology of Sport Journal, 1998, 15 299-316.

Look at the end. Every single source is cited.

Take a break from dragging your knuckles and read something every once in a while. Feel free to look up all the information yourself. You asked "am I wrong?" afterall.