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Devon Street Little India, Koreatown in Albany Park, Argyle (Uptown Chinatown), Little Village. As I said, to a lesser extent but there are some areas like that.
Yeah Devon is a pretty entry-level copy of a Mumbai street. Right down to the paan stains on the floor, paan is chewing tabacco that Indian people usually consume after lunch or dinner, at times. In the alleys or nearby park, around noon you can find a few families playing Cricket sometimes. Both in Chicago and Mumbai, Indian tourists or locals make the comparison of Lake Shore Drive to Marine Drive in Mumbai, which was inspired by Lake Shore Drive, as an urban thoroughfare along the waterfront.
Pilsen, is typically where people in Chicago go for Mexican or Salvadoran food. There's Chinatown in the Southside, and so on.
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You can make whichever argument you like, I never really made a case for or against. Only what is.
Well it's your perogative to talk about that if you like.
Well, asking a question isn't making an argument just yet. It was just to see what your opinion is on the matter and even though I didn't exactly get a response for why segregation is bad from you, I'm going to take it as you thinking it.
It's not like it's entirely devoid of merits. I mean, no one in New York really puts a gun to the heads of immigrants and zones them on where they should live. It's something people are very aware of what they're doing but they're doing it to be comfortable and around others like them. Others that need the same amenities, speak the same language, go to the same religious institutions, and possibly work in similar fields.
Plus as a visitor, it's pretty easy getting Chinese, Korean, Indian, Vietnamese, Japanese food and stuff when neighborhoods like Chinatown, Koreatown, Little India, Little Saigon, or Little Tokyo/Japantown exist.
Segregation and integration occurs in every city, different degrees? Sure. Look at all the ethnic enclaves New York and Los Angeles have, cant really say segregation has destroyed culture, when it's just given it a designated place in the city.
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Pilsen has much nicer architecture and is more slanted towards the rest of the "GP" but Little Village is like the downtown for Chicago's Mexican community. It's literally the second largest retail district outside of downtown Chicago.
Eastern Uptown and Edgewater is also a mix of everybody around the world. Many times neighborhood stats don't paint a complete picture because Broadway literally separates the non-immigrant parts from the immigrant areas. Nowadays the whole SW side is Latino, and don't forget the Eastern European/Ukrainian corridor on the NW Side.
Yeah Devon is a pretty entry-level copy of a Mumbai street. Right down to the paan stains on the floor, paan is chewing tabacco that Indian people usually consume after lunch or dinner, at times. In the alleys or nearby park, around noon you can find a few families playing Cricket sometimes. Both in Chicago and Mumbai, Indian tourists or locals make the comparison of Lake Shore Drive to Marine Drive in Mumbai, which was inspired by Lake Shore Drive, as an urban thoroughfare along the waterfront.
Pilsen, is typically where people in Chicago go for Mexican or Salvadoran food. There's Chinatown in the Southside, and so on.
Well, asking a question isn't making an argument just yet. It was just to see what your opinion is on the matter and even though I didn't exactly get a response for why segregation is bad from you, I'm going to take it as you thinking it.
It's not like it's entirely devoid of merits. I mean, no one in New York really puts a gun to the heads of immigrants and zones them on where they should live. It's something people are very aware of what they're doing but they're doing it to be comfortable and around others like them. Others that need the same amenities, speak the same language, go to the same religious institutions, and possibly work in similar fields.
Plus as a visitor, it's pretty easy getting Chinese, Korean, Indian, Vietnamese, Japanese food and stuff when neighborhoods like Chinatown, Koreatown, Little India, Little Saigon, or Little Tokyo/Japantown exist.
For other religions and cultures it is often hard without a critical mass all in one area to have the establishments and products they need from whatever country they came from. It makes it easier to live in the area and keep all your traditions. I.E. they need to eat Kosher / Glatt Kosher / Halal / Jain / Dairy only restaurants, etc. open on certain religious holidays, not closed for others they don't celebrate etc...I mean is there really a market for 10 different kinds of baba ghanoush at Safeway? Is there a market for 20 different kinds of Indian rice at a Kroger? Fresh boxes of imported indian mangoes? You often need the critical mass.
I'm in nyc right now, Spanish Harlem to be exact. Much of the city has changed in the last 10 years. The nightlife here is far superior to SF or Chicago. But so far I still have to say that it seems you have a better chance of stumbling into a good or great restaurant in in SF than nyc
I'm in nyc right now, Spanish Harlem to be exact. Much of the city has changed in the last 10 years. The nightlife here is far superior to SF or Chicago. But so far I still have to say that it seems you have a better chance of stumbling into a good or great restaurant in in SF than nyc
Need to get out of SH maybe, there are definitely dead "foodie" zones, even in Manhattan. Definitely get yelp app or something. There are areas in Chelsea, village, soho, etc that are just lined restaurant after restaurant with great food. Walking around isn't really the best option, b/c Manhattan is pretty large...and you might not find what you are looking for. I.E. in some areas you might pass 10 italian and 5 chinese places, but you are looking for indian and you are out of luck...
SF is not in the same league as the other 2, not in the top 5 in any of those categories. LA and DC are far ahead as well as 1 or 2 others
What do you know about San Francisco? We are in a position of authority now that can stop this nation in its tracks. The SF Bay Area is a primate innovative dream machine. We have everything at our doorsteps. We are the most socially influential city since LA's 20-80's boom era.
Now we sit in a state with first class education capitals and a budget surplus. The SF Bay Area's GDP is growing faster than China. Our downtown hasn't been this hot ever. San Francisco defines the US growth potential IMO.
What do you know about San Francisco? We are in a position of authority now that can stop this nation in its tracks. The SF Bay Area is a primate innovative dream machine. We have everything at our doorsteps. We are the most socially influential city since LA's 20-80's boom era.
Now we sit in a state with first class education capitals and a budget surplus. The SF Bay Area's GDP is growing faster than China. Our downtown hasn't been this hot ever. San Francisco defines the US growth potential IMO.
Are you making all these crazy assertions because of Silicon Valley?
You realize most of Silicon Valley isn't even in the San Francisco Metropolitan Area, right?
If we were to accept your statements at face value, then San Jose, which does contain Silicon Valley, would be the most powerful city in the world.
Are you making all these crazy assertions because of Silicon Valley?
You realize most of Silicon Valley isn't even in the San Francisco Metropolitan Area, right?
If we were to accept your statements at face value, then San Jose, which does contain Silicon Valley, would be the most powerful city in the world.
They share the same CSA. SF is the center of the 5th largest concentration of people in the country. It isno pushover. In fact the SF CSA will likely surpass the Chicago CSA in the next twenty years.
Are you making all these crazy assertions because of Silicon Valley?
San Francisco is the hottest city in SV right now. SV extends from DTSF to DTSJ.
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