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Old 01-17-2024, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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Yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with "hating" Boston.
Definitely a bit of hyperbole on my part; I wouldn’t get too hung up on my exact choice of words. It’s just surprising that even metros with much less overall foreign born populations than Boston or similar negatives (cold, expensive, far from Mexico) still have large representation from the country.

I expected there to be a handful of other metros with small populations, but Boston is really an outlier here.

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So because Boston hasn't been set up as a large Mexican immigrant spot as of yet, there are just so many other places for someone from there to choose from. Its the same reason you don't see many Dominicans in Texas or California. They already have such huge communities in the Northeast and Florida to choose from.
But that’s why the two are apples and oranges. If there were large Dominican communities everywhere in the country, including Salt Lake City and Portland, but there were none in Seattle then that would be the same.

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Old 01-17-2024, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with "hating" Boston. People go where their communities are. There are large Mexican communities at every corner of the US. If a Mexican was coming to the US, there are probably a lot more options that would be available.

It should also be mentioned that Mexican immigrants from different parts of Mexico settle in different parts of the US. For example, an immigrant from Durango is most likely to settle in the Chicago area, one from Jalisco or Michoacán will most likely end up in California, one from Sonora will most likely end up in Arizona, and one from San Luis Potosi or Nuevo Leon will most likely end up in Texas.

So because Boston hasn't been set up as a large Mexican immigrant spot as of yet, there are just so many other places for someone from there to choose from. Its the same reason you don't see many Dominicans in Texas or California. They already have such huge communities in the Northeast and Florida to choose from.
The path from Puebla leads to Philadelphia, and the local restaurants (and diners, as there are some Pueblans who have opened acclaimed restaurants of their own) have reaped the rewards. There's also a Dominican community here in the lower Northeast.
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Old 01-17-2024, 09:11 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with "hating" Boston. People go where their communities are. There are large Mexican communities at every corner of the US. If a Mexican was coming to the US, there are probably a lot more options that would be available.

It should also be mentioned that Mexican immigrants from different parts of Mexico settle in different parts of the US. For example, an immigrant from Durango is most likely to settle in the Chicago area, one from Jalisco or Michoacán will most likely end up in California, one from Sonora will most likely end up in Arizona, and one from San Luis Potosi or Nuevo Leon will most likely end up in Texas.

So because Boston hasn't been set up as a large Mexican immigrant spot as of yet, there are just so many other places for someone from there to choose from. Its the same reason you don't see many Dominicans in Texas or California. They already have such huge communities in the Northeast and Florida to choose from.
Another factor is many tend to assume connections that don't exist, e.g. one Spanish speaking community would be attracted to the same place as another Spanish speaking community. There is little in common between Dominicans and Mexicans for example, aside from mother tongue. The reasons each migrate are different as well.
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Old 01-17-2024, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The path from Puebla leads to Philadelphia, and the local restaurants (and diners, as there are some Pueblans who have opened acclaimed restaurants of their own) have reaped the rewards. There's also a Dominican community here in the lower Northeast.
I wasn't sure about PHL, but I knew a large number of the Mexicans in NYC were from Puebla.
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Old 01-17-2024, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Here are all the international groups by CSA. However, because of the discrepancy in size between the CSA's on this list, I am going to tier it. It just doesn't seem like listing all groups over 30,000 is going to work the same for NYC as it would Minneapolis for example. So here is how I'm going to lay it out:

NYC and LA will have all over 50,000 listed. The rest will have all over 30,000 listed. I raised the bar slightly because this is CSA not Urban Area or MSA. The exceptions will be San Diego and Tampa. They have no CSA, so I used 25,000 for them.

This is part of a way of trying to gage per capita diversity with sheer diversity, but even given that it has to have checks in place.

New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie - 29 Countries
Dominican Republic: 703,394
China: 469,963
India: 408,026
Mexico: 306,042
Ecuador: 287,781
Jamaica: 280,306
Colombia: 208,529
Guyana: 189,347
Haiti: 177,714
Philippines: 164,122
El Salvador: 155,217
Korea: 144,151
Bangladesh: 120,833
Peru: 117,031
Guatemala: 116,654
Poland: 113,635
Italy: 109,582
Trinidad and Tobago: 104,974
Russia: 93,660
Ukraine: 93,205
Honduras: 92,249
Brazil: 91,265
Pakistan: 84,819
United Kingdom: 83,082
Cuba: 64,710
Egypt: 58,531
Ghana: 56,569
Nigeria: 55,304
Hong Kong: 50,331

Washington DC/Baltimore - 16 Countries
El Salvador: 215,005
India: 137,575
Korea: 76,833
China: 75,624
Guatemala: 67,281
Ethiopia: 66,113
Mexico: 64,428
Philippines: 63,319
Vietnam: 54,379
Nigeria: 50,703
Honduras: 47,072
Peru: 42,309
Pakistan: 37,344
Jamaica: 34,715
Ghana: 32,977
Bolivia: 31,678

Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Port St. Lucie - 15 Countries
Cuba: 791,402
Haiti: 244,988
Colombia: 193,609
Venezuela: 163,135
Jamaica: 148,360
Nicaragua: 89,782
Mexico: 81,171
Honduras: 74,881
Dominican Republic: 70,447
Brazil: 65,331
Peru: 64,492
Guatemala: 58,636
Argentina: 45,080
Ecuador: 33,310
El Salvador: 30,612

Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino - 13 Countries
Mexico: 2,138,270
Philippines: 364,903
El Salvador: 326,729
China: 278,472
Vietnam: 271,289
Korea: 223,922
Guatemala: 222,880
Iran: 142,818
India: 119,737
Taiwan: 96,667
Armenia: 72,210
United Kingdom: 58,732
Japan: 54,555

San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto - 13 Countries
Mexico: 672,526
China: 336,933
India: 332,362
Philippines: 279,903
Vietnam: 167,736
El Salvador: 74,827
Taiwan: 66,388
Korea: 60,767
Hong Kong: 49,246
Guatemala: 45,338
Iran: 41,112
United Kingdom: 39,916
Japan: 30,332

Houston - 13 Countries
Mexico: 593,572
El Salvador: 130,607
Vietnam: 93,930
India: 93,695
Honduras: 87,609
China: 53,779
Nigeria: 52,700
Guatemala: 48,928
Venezuela: 43,233
Philippines: 40,981
Colombia: 36,708
Pakistan: 32,972
Cuba: 31,015

Boston/Worcester/Providence - 11 Countries
Dominican Republic: 136,924
China: 108,242
Brazil: 95,817
India: 94,270
Haiti: 64,019
Portugal: 63,933
El Salvador: 48,942
Guatemala: 44,937
Cabo Verde: 40,389
Vietnam: 37,986
Colombia: 34,157

Dallas/Fort Worth - 8 Countries
Mexico: 599,617
India: 148,847
El Salvador: 66,516
Vietnam: 60,981
China: 37,174
Nigeria: 31,484
Honduras: 30,777
Korea: 30,199

Orlando/Lakeland/Deltona - 8 Countries
Venezuela: 63,022
Mexico: 50,589
Colombia: 50,136
Haiti: 49,421
Cuba: 44,796
Dominican Republic: 36,720
Jamaica: 35,963
Brazil: 30,964

Chicago - 7 Countries
Mexico: 613,402
India: 152,457
Poland: 124,341
Philippines: 88,416
China: 63,230
Korea: 36,573
Pakistan: 30,450

Atlanta/Athens - 7 Countries
Mexico: 166,032
India: 93,143
Jamaica: 46,949
Vietnam: 39,750
Korea: 37,566
China: 35,123
Guatemala: 31,445

Seattle/Tacoma - 6 Countries
Mexico: 105,766
India: 95,240
China: 77,323
Philippines: 63,761
Vietnam: 55,029
Korea: 44,883

Philadelphia/Reading - 5 Countries
India: 93,829
Mexico: 68,673
Dominican Republic: 57,187
China: 54,650
Vietnam: 30,412

San Diego - 5 Countries
Mexico: 310,780
Philippines: 90,210
Vietnam: 34,222
China: 28,203
India: 26,843

Detroit/Ann Arbor - 3 Countries
India: 63,158
Iraq: 53,644
Mexico: 39,381

Sacramento/Roseville - 3 Countries
Mexico: 117,694
Philippines: 42,299
India: 40,776

Tampa - 3 Countries
Cuba: 81,108
Mexico: 39,145
Colombia: 25,957

Phoenix - 2 Countries
Mexico: 337,699
India: 38,299

Las Vegas - 2 Countries
Mexico: 170,550
Philippines: 80,965

Minneapolis/St. Paul - 2 Countries
Mexico: 45,833
Somalia: 34,812

Austin/Marble Falls - 2 Countries
Mexico: 124,918
India: 38,995

Charlotte - 2 Countries
Mexico: 54,734
India: 33,178

Raleigh/Durham - 2 Countries
Mexico: 50,448
India: 39,724

Denver/Greeley - 1 Country
Mexico: 158,225

Portland/Salem - 1 Country
Mexico: 111,710

San Antonio/Pearsall - 1 Country
Mexico: 179,623

Salt Lake City/Provo - 1 Country
Mexico: 87,750

Columbus/Zanesville - 0 Countries
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Old 01-17-2024, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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New England and Boston have little to no large-scale agricultural lands AND are far as possible from Mexico and expensive.

We base most of our immigration patterns on NYC. Mexicans didn't really get to NYC until the end of their massive waves. Boston was extremely expensive by this time, and construction jobs were union-dominated.
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Old 01-17-2024, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Here are all the international groups by CSA...
These are the groups from countries with an Human Development Index score of 0.900 or higher.

New York City/Bridgeport/Poughkeepsie - 3 Countries
Korea: 144,151
United Kingdom: 83,082
Hong Kong: 50,331

Washington DC/Baltimore - 1 Country
Korea: 76,833

Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Port St. Lucie - 0 Countries

Los Angeles/Riverside/San Bernardino - 4 Countries
Korea: 223,922
Taiwan: 96,667
United Kingdom: 58,732
Japan: 54,555

San Jose/San Francisco/Stockton/Modesto - 5 Countries
Taiwan: 66,388
Korea: 60,767
Hong Kong: 49,246
United Kingdom: 39,916
Japan: 30,332

Houston - 0 Countries

Boston/Worcester/Providence - 0 Countries

Dallas/Fort Worth - 1 Country
Korea: 30,199

Chicago - 0 Countries

Atlanta/Athens - 1 Country
Korea: 37,566

Seattle/Tacoma - 1 Country
Korea: 44,883

Philadelphia/Reading - 0 Countries

https://hdr.undp.org/data-center/cou...nsights#/ranks

Korea appears to have the biggest regional diaspora among highly developed countries in the biggest US regions with large representations in NY, DC, LA, SF, Dallas, Atlanta and Seattle.
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Old 01-17-2024, 11:53 AM
 
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Are there really that many Japanese immigrants in California? Or are they most Japanese Americans?
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Old 01-17-2024, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Are there really that many Japanese immigrants in California? Or are they most Japanese Americans?
These are immigrants only. I wouldn't say there are a ton. Their numbers used to be bigger. They will continue to decline as there is no benefit that isn't related to the weather for moving from Japan to the US.
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Old 01-17-2024, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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These are immigrants only. I wouldn't say there are a ton. Their numbers used to be bigger. They will continue to decline as there is no benefit that isn't related to the weather for moving from Japan to the US.
That, and a declining number of Japanese people period. I'd expect Korean immigration to follow a similar fate soon, too.
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