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Old 03-18-2024, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Even if you take places that have significant domestic growth like DFW and Houston, Dallas and Harris Counties all had significant domestic population declines.
Wow, that's something I hadn't expected. Really goes to show that domestic population loss is now universal to the core counties of all big metros, no longer just the Northeast and Midwest.

Cost-of-living, specifically for housing, has to be the primary motivating factor.
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Old 03-18-2024, 07:40 AM
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Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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Wow, that's something I hadn't expected. Really goes to show that domestic population loss is now universal to the core counties of all big metros, no longer just the Northeast and Midwest.

Cost-of-living, specifically for housing, has to be the primary motivating factor.
Even Travis County (Austin) had population declines! Tarrant County (Fort Worth) and Maricopa County (Phoenix) even had very little growth.
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Old 03-18-2024, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Even Travis County (Austin) had population declines! Tarrant County (Fort Worth) and Maricopa County (Phoenix) even had very little growth.
This is exactly what unaffordable housing prices does to migration patterns, this started in California 30 years ago.
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Old 03-18-2024, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Wow, that's something I hadn't expected. Really goes to show that domestic population loss is now universal to the core counties of all big metros, no longer just the Northeast and Midwest.

Cost-of-living, specifically for housing, has to be the primary motivating factor.
This doesn't make sense to me. You think that international immigrants can afford to live in cities but Americans are moving to the suburbs?
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Old 03-19-2024, 10:25 AM
 
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In high-cost cities, immigrants are often in high-paying jobs. This is particularly stark in San Francisco and Seattle due to tech.

Immigrants in low-paying jobs will often live with extended families or roommates, far more than American-born people on average.

They also have huge rates of starting small businesses on average, and might care about opportunity more than living costs.
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Old 04-29-2024, 11:12 AM
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Since some people like city proper based data, so I decided to put some together. Foreign born populations by city proper and Ive listed all over 15,000 or the top 5 whichever fits the city. I will not list any under 1,000 though. The number next to the city represents the number of nationalities with at least 15,000 immigrants in the city. All cities with at least 100,000 foreign born are listed as well as a few other notable big cities. Not going below 50,000 foreign born though, so some big cities are missing. Youll notice nothing from the DC, Atlanta, or Detroit areas simply because of the small square mileage those occupy. I also only messed with cities over 150,000. Its for this reason this isnt my favorite metric to do but many on here like it so here we are.

Total Foreign Born Population
New York City: 3,065,136
Los Angeles: 1,336,161
Houston: 664,495
Chicago: 550,888
San Jose: 410,543
San Diego: 344,419
Phoenix: 310,368
Dallas: 309,124
San Francisco: 288,169
Miami: 256,805
Philadelphia: 232,805
San Antonio: 206,048
Boston: 186,838
Austin: 175,340
Charlotte: 156,971
Fort Worth: 153,411
El Paso: 153,221
Seattle: 145,708
Las Vegas: 134,167
Santa Ana: 127,356
Columbus: 126,215
Irvine: 120,511
Anaheim: 120,202
Jersey City: 118,507
Oakland: 115,087
Jacksonville: 114,440
Long Beach: 113,741
Fremont, CA: 111,684
Sacramento: 111,554
Newark: 106,575
Irving, TX: 104,721
Fresno: 102,700
Denver: 99,039
Honolulu: 95,961
Glendale: 99,993
Nashville: 93,696
Indianapolis: 90,816
Washington DC: 90,106
Plano: 83,204
Arlington, TX: 81,994
Portland: 81,652
Oklahoma City: 80,929
Stockton: 80,034
Tucson: 76,737
Garland, TX: 77,664
Tampa: 71,489
Riverside: 70,062
Orlando: 69,340
Minneapolis: 61,761
Raleigh: 60,334
Milwaukee: 59,932
St. Paul: 58,146
Santa Clara, CA: 57,758
Louisville: 56,135
Mesa, AZ: 52,820
North Las Vegas: 55,603
Frisco, TX: 51,141

New York City - 38
Dominican Republic: 419,526
China: 347,231
Mexico: 166,670
Jamaica: 151,559
Guyana: 137,769
Ecuador: 121,999
Bangladesh: 97,506
Haiti: 78,316
Colombia: 78,001
Trinidad and Tobago: 72,125
India: 68,508
Ukraine: 65,719
Philippines: 53,997
Korea: 50,285
Russia: 48,411
Pakistan: 37,506
Italy: 36,874
Ghana: 33,683
Poland: 31,507
Hong Kong: 31,390
Guatemala: 29,874
Peru: 28,644
Uzbekistan: 28,516
Honduras: 27,886
El Salvador: 27,014
France: 20,054
Taiwan: 19,273
Israel: 19,250
Albania: 18,541
Japan: 18,207
Nigeria: 17,987
Greece: 17,663
Venezuela: 17,603
Barbados: 17,565
United Kingdom: 16,939
Grenada: 16,716
Germany: 15,640

Los Angeles - 12
Mexico: 417,964
El Salvador: 158,484
Guatemala: 129,595
Philippines: 85,050
Korea: 77,034
Iran: 56,527
China: 35,873
United Kingdom: 18,215
India: 21,987
Honduras: 21,697
Vietnam: 18,000
Russia: 15,510

Houston - 10
Mexico: 238,486
El Salvador: 64,697
Honduras: 52,544
Guatemala: 30,513
Vietnam: 28,314
India: 23,959
Venezuela: 19,599
China: 19,136
Nigeria: 18,159
Cuba: 15,036

Chicago - 5
Mexico: 218,858
China: 34,500
Poland: 29,521
India: 25,459
Philippines: 22,260

San Jose - 5
Mexico: 84,963
Vietnam: 81,213
India: 52,443
China: 39,695
Philippines: 32,743

San Diego - 5
Mexico: 110,404
Philippines: 43,910
Vietnam: 24,509
China: 21,115
India: 19,690

San Francisco - 4
China: 84,573
Philippines: 22,808
Mexico: 20,457
Hong Kong: 15,201
Vietnam: 14,476

Miami - 4
Cuba: 109,986
Honduras: 22,986
Nicaragua: 20,741
Venezuela: 16,537
Colombia: 13,827

Dallas - 3
Mexico: 176,435
El Salvador: 17,383
Honduras: 15,187
Guatemala: 9,078
India: 8,226

Boston - 3
Dominican Republic: 23,922
China: 20,053
Haiti: 16,100
Cabo Verde: 8,739
Vietnam: 7,694

Charlotte - 3
Mexico: 21,863
India: 17,527
Honduras: 15,168
El Salvador: 8,938
Vietnam: 5,826

Irving - 3
Mexico: 27,461
India: 25,986
El Salvador: 15,986
Nepal: 5,995
Pakistan: 2,323

Philadelphia - 2
China: 24,392
Dominican Republic: 22,822
India: 12,486
Vietnam: 12,067
Jamaica: 9,333

Austin - 2
Mexico: 54,270
India: 19,809
China: 7,150
Honduras: 6,597
Vietnam: 6,017

Las Vegas - 2
Mexico: 55,945
Philippines: 16,753
Cuba: 6,525
El Salvador: 6,428
Iran: 2,103

Fremont - 2
India: 46,295
China: 15,929
Philippines: 7,955
Taiwan: 7,015
Mexico: 5,468

Seattle - 2
China: 22,271
India: 15,937
Mexico: 9,567
Vietnam: 9,100
Philippines: 8,608

Santa Ana - 2
Mexico: 90,086
Vietnam: 16,546
Guatemala: 4,865
El Salvador: 2,845
Philippines: 2,082

Glendale - 2
Iran: 26,869
Armenia: 23,824
Philippines: 7,610
Mexico: 6,875
Korea: 4,385

Oakland - 2
Mexico: 29,632
China: 16,036
Guatemala: 8,632
Vietnam: 7,875
Philippines: 4,306

Honolulu - 2
Philippines: 28,269
China: 15,068
Japan: 11,840
Korea: 9,081
Micronesia: 5,655

Phoenix - 1
Mexico: 189,099
India: 14,064
Guatemala: 8,299
Philippines: 6,461
Vietnam: 4,273

San Antonio - 1
Mexico: 128,973
India: 8,319
Honduras: 5,321
Philippines: 5,308
El Salvador: 3,761

Fort Worth - 1
Mexico: 82,118
India: 5,663
Vietnam: 4,648
Honduras: 3,930
Philippines: 3,040

El Paso - 1
Mexico: 133,665
Germany: 3,185
Philippines: 1,087
Korea: 1,020

Irvine - 1
China: 24,766
Korea: 13,665
India: 12,658
Iran: 9,640
Vietnam: 6,631

Anaheim - 1
Mexico: 57,566
Vietnam: 14,160
Philippines: 9,703
Korea: 4,604
Guatemala: 3,627

Long Beach - 1
Mexico: 52,140
Philippines: 14,147
Cambodia: 8,096
El Salvador: 4,322
Guatemala: 3,190

Sacramento - 1
Mexico: 30,114
Philippines: 8,688
China: 8,124
India: 7,951
Vietnam: 7,466

Jersey City - 1
India: 26,965
Dominican Republic: 11,991
Philippines: 11,091
China: 8,024
Egypt: 5,619

Newark - 1
Ecuador: 18,442
Dominican Republic: 12,695
Nigeria: 6,408
Portugal: 6,281
Haiti: 4,615

Fresno - 1
Mexico: 48,849
India: 10,748
Laos: 7,750
Philippines: 5,318
Thailand: 3,950

Stockton - 1
Mexico: 35,890
Philippines: 12,447
Cambodia: 4,116
Vietnam: 3,971
India: 3,281

Indianapolis - 1
Mexico: 24,970
Burma: 10,469
Nigeria: 7,291
India: 5,278
El Salvador: 2,660

Denver - 1
Mexico: 43,193
Vietnam: 4,034
China: 2,647
El Salvador: 2,107
India: 1,948

Nashville - 1
Mexico: 16,853
Egypt: 6,813
Honduras: 5,573
Iraq: 4,969
Guatemala: 4,644

Garland - 1
Mexico: 32,864
Vietnam: 10,159
El Salvador: 4,724
India: 3,427
Ethiopia: 2,626

Tucson - 1
Mexico: 47,524
China: 2,434
Philippines: 1,989
India: 1,470
Vietnam: 1,259

Tampa - 1
Cuba: 18,767
India: 4,593
Mexico: 4,397
Colombia: 2,902
Honduras: 2,506

Oklahoma City - 1
Mexico: 35,749
Vietnam: 7,707
Guatemala: 5,116
India: 4,117
Honduras: 1,223

Riverside - 1
Mexico: 38,263
Philippines: 3,693
Guatemala: 3,268
China: 2,858
Vietnam: 2,265

Plano - 1
India: 22,473
Mexico: 8,794
China: 6,632
Korea: 2,743
Iran: 2,596

Santa Clara, CA - 1
India: 17,354
China: 12,321
Philippines: 4,284
Mexico: 3,266
Vietnam: 2,683

Arlington - 1
Mexico: 29,153
Vietnam: 10,478
Nigeria: 3,815
India: 2,244
Kenya: 1,906

Milwaukee - 1
Mexico: 27,956
Burma: 3,354
Laos: 2,626
Thailand: 2,357
India: 1,907

Frisco, TX - 1
India: 21,799
Mexico: 4,000
China: 2,563
Korea: 2,454
Iran: 1,922

Mesa, AZ - 1
Mexico: 31,969
Philippines: 2,036
Vietnam: 1,226

North Las Vegas - 1
Mexico: 32,404
Philippines: 8,601
El Salvador: 2,161
Guatemala: 1,602
Peru: 1,020

Columbus - 0
India: 12,644
Somalia: 11,944
Mexico: 10,034
China: 6,146
Ghana: 5,771

Jacksonville - 0
Philippines: 12,129
India: 7,998
Cuba: 6,964
Haiti: 5,964
Mexico: 5,283

Washington DC - 0
El Salvador: 10,477
Ethiopia: 6,470
Mexico: 3,733
China: 3,264
India: 3,088

Portland - 0
Mexico: 11,642
Vietnam: 11,369
China: 7,394
Ukraine: 2,626
Philippines: 2,507

Orlando - 0
Venezuela: 11,471
Brazil: 8,870
Haiti: 6,040
Colombia: 4,825
Dominican Republic: 4,819

Minneapolis - 0
Somalia: 12,956
Mexico: 7,343
Ethiopia: 4,796
Ecuador: 4,068
Kenya: 2,494

St. Paul - 0
Thailand: 8,198
Laos: 8,149
Mexico: 5,139
Ethiopia: 4,652
Somalia: 3,690

Louisville - 0
Cuba: 13,866
Mexico: 5,116
India: 3,068
Honduras: 1,557
El Salvador: 1,530

Raleigh - 0
Mexico: 10,047
India: 4,471
Vietnam: 2,970
El Salvador: 2,950
Nigeria: 2,320
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Old 04-29-2024, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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DC ATL Detroit aren’t not there because of small land area. Boston and Miami are significantly smaller than all of them.

Those *cities* aren’t that international. Their suburbs are. Except Detroit. It’s fairly evident if you move from one of the more international cities to one of those cities.

It’s a significant delineation, culturally it can mean a lot. So thank you for this list.
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Old 04-29-2024, 03:40 PM
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Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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DC ATL Detroit aren’t not there because of small land area. Boston and Miami are significantly smaller than all of them.

Those *cities* aren’t that international. Their suburbs are. Except Detroit. It’s fairly evident if you move from one of the more international cities to one of those cities.

It’s a significant delineation, culturally it can mean a lot. So thank you for this list.
I would say that Detroit does have some international suburbs. Dearborn, Hamtramck, and Sterling Heights are all over 30% foreign born and closing in on 40%.
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Old 04-29-2024, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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DC ATL Detroit aren’t not there because of small land area. Boston and Miami are significantly smaller than all of them.

Those *cities* aren’t that international. Their suburbs are. Except Detroit. It’s fairly evident if you move from one of the more international cities to one of those cities.

It’s a significant delineation, culturally it can mean a lot. So thank you for this list.
Actually, DC does appear on that list, between Indianapolis and Plano, Texas.
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Old 04-29-2024, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I would say that Detroit does have some international suburbs. Dearborn, Hamtramck, and Sterling Heights are all over 30% foreign born and closing in on 40%.
Those places are very few in number. With Stelring Heights not being particularly close to city limits anyway. I've been to Detroit a few times now. It's not an international city outside of West Asians. It's not a geographically small city either.

The metro foreign born % (10%) is well below the national average (14%). It's not comparable to DCs suburbs.

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