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In the SW, you have Cincinnati, which is about 50 % southern and 50 % Midwestern. Then you have Columbus, which is a distinctly Midwestern city. Then you have Cleveland, which is about 50% Midwestern, 35 % Northeastern, and perhaps 15 % Appalachia-Southern. The NW corner of the state with Toledo has a very Upper Great Lakes/Michigander vibe. The areas to the southeast of Canton/Akron have a Southern/Appalachia Vibe. And, both scenically and culturally, west of Columbus wouldn't look out of place in Iowa or Kansas.
In terms of the way cities are set up, there are distinctly urban parts, then urban neighborhoods, then standard late 20th/21st century suburbs, small towns with New England charm, and complete countryside.
In terms of landscape, OH is also quite decent, as being on the verge of several neighboring states that each have different appearances, the Cincinnati area is surrounded by rolling hills with grassland instead of trees, the OH River and it's bluffs, and several caves. Central Ohio is relatively flat farmland, though it also, especially moving a little further east has lots of rolling farmland. Especially around Cleveland, and parts east and south, there is tons of old growth forest, some of the best you can find near a city anywhere, and more rolling hills. In addition, there are gorges, waterfalls, Wisconsin glaciation, and the Lake Erie shoreline/marshland.
Yeah, it's certainly not "world wonder" type natural beauty, but for everyday living in some ways, it's even more appealing than some of those features.
Cincinnati is not anywhere close to 50 percent Southern. More like 30 percent Southern. Typical Clevelander conclusion reached by not knowing what the true South is really like. Cincinnati is a decidedly Midwestern city by a large margin culturally linguistically and demographically. You also lack a clear understanding of your own city. Cleveland is not Southern at all. The South in Ohio begins Southeast of Cincinnati and follows the Ohio River to about Parkersburg, WV.
Central OK, starting from OK City heading north and northwest to the Kansas border, contains quite a bit of wheat, which is Kansas' main crop. You have the same effect when the northern border of Kansas meets Nebraska ( although some of those counties, on both sides, grow corn, too)...
Oklahoma is still culturally linguistically and demographically a Southern state something Kansas is not.
The most hybrid state is Colorado easily, when you have a net 10,000 people moving to an area you will get a mix of cultures, add that to the front range versus plains and mountain rural lifestyles and you are talking about a very hybrid state.
The most hybrid state is Colorado easily, when you have a net 10,000 people moving to an area you will get a mix of cultures, add that to the front range versus plains and mountain rural lifestyles and you are talking about a very hybrid state.
To be honest, Colorado would not be on my top list of hybrid states. And certainly not the most hybrid state easily LOL.
All states are hybrid to some extent I guess.
Colorado for instance:
--- is a Western State
--- is a "Mountain" State
--- has a large area which is part of the Great Plains (the High Plains)
--- has large areas of desert or semi-arid lands
Compare that to the state of New York:
--- is a Northeastern State
--- is a Mid-Atlantic State
--- is a Appalachian State
--- is in the Great Lakes Region
--- is a "Rustbelt State"
--- part of the Northern Forest (Open Space Conservation )
--- part of the Bos-Wash corridor
--- part of the Atlantic Coastal Plain with ocean beaches, marshes, bays and barrier islands
--- part of the Canadian Shield and St Lawrence River Valley with Canada
--- stretches between Canada and the Atlantic Ocean
--- stretches between the Midwest (almost) and New England
No the vast majority of Texas is Southern culturally linguistically and demographically.
Quick question, what makes a place Southern demographically? Also , I still say there isn't much different from the Panhandle and Great Plains Midwest.
Quick question, what makes a place Southern demographically? Also , I still say there isn't much different from the Panhandle and Great Plains Midwest.
The Panhandle is Southern Baptist and speaks with a Southern accent. That's true for an enormous chunk of Texas. Those are Southern demographics. And among the white population in Texas the vast majority identifies as American or English. Texas is a Southern state.
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The Panhandle is Southern Baptist and speaks with a Southern accent. That's true for an enormous chunk of Texas. Those are Southern demographics. And among the white population in Texas the vast majority identifies as American or English. Texas is a Southern state.
It doesn't have anything to do with the south geographically west of US 83, which includes the entire panhandle and a line going through Abilene, Junction and Laredo. It is the southwest west of US 83, just on geography and climate alone!
It doesn't have anything to do with the south geographically west of US 83, which includes the entire panhandle and a line going through Abilene, Junction and Laredo. It is the southwest west of US 83, just on geography and climate alone!
That's a load of crap. The Southern accent dominates most of the state west of U.S. 83. Geography? You have no argument there. Climatologically the vast majority of the state except the Western panhandle is hot and humid. The Western panhandle is the only part of Texas that isn't Southern.
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