Criteria to be considered "Black Mecca" (state, largest, places)

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Las Vegas and Seattle are pretty high to not have large Black populations to begin with.

True.

Can we officially declare Milwaukee the worst city for Black people in America? It has the highest Black unemployment rate and the lowest educational attainment rate among Blacks of any major U.S. metro area.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

I'm not talking about the black growth. Thanks, however.

I was speaking more on the "fluff," if you will. Houston and Miami don't really have "fluff" like Atlanta does, which includes Athens.

Then what point exactly are you trying to make?

You wanted to compare it to Houston and Miami based on MSA alone. Now you can.

[murksiderock]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Athens and Gainesville, the smaller MSAs included in Atlanta's CSA, aren't growing much at all though.

Wrong!

Gainesville is growing just as fast as Atlanta (6.16% to 6.20%). Granted, Gainesville's growth is directly attributable to Atlanta, but since that wasn't the point made...

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

True.

Can we officially declare Milwaukee the worst city for Black people in America? It has the highest Black unemployment rate and the lowest educational attainment rate among Blacks of any major U.S. metro area.

Yeesh...and it's a full 8 percentage points higher than the next highest metro. What's going on over there????

[Mutiny77]

When I get some time, I think I'll compile occupational lists for metros 500K-1 million; I like to see how the smaller ones stack up.

[Trafalgar Law]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

What are the MSA numbers?

Here are the MSAs for the "core cities" of those same cities that I posted of earlier.

African American and/or Black Population (Alone), 2014:
01. New York MSA: 3,448,823
02. Atlanta MSA: 1,881,020
03. Chicago MSA: 1,608,877
04. Washington D.C. MSA: 1,523,041
05. Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA: 1,268,176
06. Philadelphia MSA: 1,266,346
07. Houston MSA: 1,118,821
08. Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex MSA: 1,056,876
09. Detroit MSA: 961,183
10. Los Angeles MSA: 881,761
11. Boston MSA: 363,422
12. San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 350,537

African American and/or Black Population (Alone) Growth 2013-2014:
01. Atlanta MSA: + 58,433
02. Houston MSA: + 33,005
03. Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex MSA: + 28,841
04. Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA: + 25,343
05. New York MSA: + 12,477
06. Washington D.C. MSA: + 4,613
07. Detroit MSA: -807
08. Chicago MSA: -1,259
09. Boston MSA: -1,338
10. Los Angeles MSA: -2,368
11. Philadelphia MSA: -3,306
12. San Francisco/Oakland MSA: -4,266


African American and/or Black Population (in Combination with 1 or more groups), 2014:
01. New York MSA: 3,707,482
02. Atlanta MSA: 1,945,480
03. Chicago MSA: 1,701,208
04. Washington D.C. MSA: 1,610,443
05. Philadelphia MSA: 1,353,075
06. Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA: 1,332,665
07. Houston MSA: 1,170,621
08. Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex MSA: 1,139,429
09. Los Angeles MSA: 1,020,232
10. Detroit MSA: 1,011,137
11. Boston MSA: 452,403
12. San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 425,656

African American and/or Black Population (in Combination with 1 or more groups) Growth 2013-2014:
01. Atlanta MSA: + 49,041
02. Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex MSA: + 34,967
03. Houston MSA: + 30,958
04. Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA: + 28,347
05. Washington D.C. MSA: + 17,296
06. Boston MSA: + 13,677
07. Los Angeles MSA: + 8,650
08. New York MSA: + 4,613
09. Chicago MSA: +379
10. San Francisco/Oakland MSA: -1,833
11. Philadelphia MSA: -2,801
12. Detroit MSA: -3,789

I'm looking into making a "Total Diversity" thread again for 2014, similar to the one I made in 2012 with the 2011 census numbers.

I'll do states in just a minute. What states should I be looking at (I am not familiar enough to come up with a list of state names on my own)?

[stanley-88888888]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

You know those two things aren't mutually exclusive, right?

i agree, most people are very nice to your face but are very racist behind closed doors.

[Mutiny77]

States you should be looking at: CA, TX, FL, NY, MD, VA, NC, IL, MI, PA, MA, OH, and DC for sure.

[SouthernBoy205]

However, Athens and Gainesville add a lot of people, allowing Atlanta to almost be the same size as Houston. That's what I meant by "fluff."

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

I'm not talking about the black growth. Thanks, however.

I was speaking more on the "fluff," if you will. Houston and Miami don't really have "fluff" like Atlanta does, which includes Athens.

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

However, Athens and Gainesville add a lot of people, allowing Atlanta to almost be the same size as Houston. That's what I meant by "fluff."

LOL, no.

As of 2010, here are the population numbers:

Athens-Clarke County MSA Total population: 192,541 people. Residents of African-American descent: 37,182
Gainesville MSA Total population: 179,684 people. Residents of African-American descent: 12,757

Total addition of African-Americans from the Atlanta CSA: 49,939

Both are pretty small in total size, and relatively small black populations percentage wise compared to the rest of the State. The reason for this is that historically North Georgia never had much of a black population, even Atlanta. Almost all of the plantations in Antebellum times were in the central and southern part of the State.

Atlanta's Black population didn't start growing until Reconstruction and the Industrial Revolution were in full steam and Black folks started to move to the city for factory jobs. It never ended, and only picked up steam when the Civil Rights era when Atlanta afforded Black folks equal access to jobs and housing unlike most of the rest of the South. Even as late as 1980 the Black population in the Atlanta area was "only" 500,000. The majority of the growth of the Black population has been in the last three decades. Kind of mind blowing when you step back for a moment and look at it.

As for your other comment about fluff, roughly 95% of the total Atlanta CSA population lives in the Atlanta MSA (and most of that in the core five counties). Nice try though.