Atlanta vs. Phoenix

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by mjlo

The sprawl factor is not nearly equal for both cities. It's a very common myth that Phoenix is uber sprawled



Phoenix's urban area is actually denser than quite a few cities. It covers less than half the land area that Atlanta's does and is near double the density.

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...es_urban_areas

Phoenix just has denser sprawl is all, which Western cities in particular tend to have.

What Density Doesn't Tell Us About Sprawl - ACCESS Magazine

[mjlo]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Phoenix just has denser sprawl is all, which Western cities in particular tend to have.

What Density Doesn't Tell Us About Sprawl - ACCESS Magazine

All cities, even the elitist poster children have sprawl. It's unavoidable, as a city grows up, it also grows out. The density/sprawl argument has long been one of my least favorite arguments on here. As it stands per the definition of sprawl Phoenix is less sprawled than it is perceived, and certainly less sprawled than Atlanta. It's not an argument for or against either city, just stating a fact. There's a clear reason Atlanta is winning this poll.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by mjlo

All cities, even the elitist poster children have sprawl. It's unavoidable, as a city grows up, it also grows out. The density/sprawl argument has long been one of my least favorite arguments on here. As it stands per the definition of sprawl Phoenix is less sprawled than it is perceived, and certainly less sprawled than Atlanta. It's not an argument for or against either city, just stating a fact. There's a clear reason Atlanta is winning this poll.

I'd say per the popular conception of sprawl, not so much the actual definition (of which there is more than one).

Even so, it's possible that Atlanta is both more sprawled and more urban than Phoenix at the same time.

[mjlo]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

I'd say per the popular conception of sprawl, not so much the actual definition (of which there is more than one).

Even so, it's possible that Atlanta is both more sprawled and more urban than Phoenix at the same time.

I certainly wasn't trying to infer otherwise in my posts. Phoenix's built environment is underrated IMO, but it doesn't compare to Atlanta's. When you walk down Central Ave in Phoenix you have a couple blocks of urbanity downtown, followed by what's a little more urban than suburban office park in Uptown to the north. When I walk down Peach tree from Downtown to Buckhead (yes I have done this more than once) Atlanta feels world class in comparison.