Atlanta vs. Phoenix (state, compare, downtown, states)
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Location: Metro Atlanta (Sandy Springs), by way of Macon, GA
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Originally Posted by i'm not a cookie
lol why?
It's not that Atlanta is loved by all on here, especially the "density" fan club, but it seems like PHX gets bashed even more for some of the same stuff. Being smaller and just as, if not more," sprawly" than Atlanta, I just figured most would vote for ATL.
It's not that Atlanta is loved by all on here, especially the "density" fan club, but it seems like PHX gets bashed even more for some of the same stuff. Being smaller and just as, if not more," sprawly" than Atlanta, I just figured most would vote for ATL.
It's not that Atlanta is loved by all on here, especially the "density" fan club, but it seems like PHX gets bashed even more for some of the same stuff. Being smaller and just as, if not more," sprawly" than Atlanta, I just figured most would vote for ATL.
It's not surprising; the sprawl factor is more or less equal for both cities so I think it comes down to scenery/geography/climate/culture for each and what people prefer.
It's not surprising; the sprawl factor is more or less equal for both cities so I think it comes down to scenery/geography/climate/culture for each and what people prefer.
The sprawl factor is not nearly equal for both cities. It's a very common myth that Phoenix is uber sprawled
Phoenix's urban area is actually denser than quite a few cities. It covers less than half the land area that Atlanta's does and is near double the density.
The sprawl factor is not nearly equal for both cities. It's a very common myth that Phoenix is uber sprawled
Phoenix's urban area is actually denser than quite a few cities. It covers less than half the land area that Atlanta's does and is near double the density.
According to Wikipedia, the density of the Atlanta MSA is 630 people per sq mile. The density of the Phoenix MSA is 308 people per sq mile.
The Atlanta metro has 5.7 million people spread across 8,376 square miles. The Phoenix metro has 4.5 million people spread across 14,599 square miles.
As a metro, Atlanta is more than 2x as dense as Phoenix.
Those metrics are intellectually dishonest and deceiving. Phoenix isn't spread across it's MSA at all. MSA's are based on county commuting patterns. Georgia has 159 counties in 59k sq mi. Arizona has 15 counties in 114k sq mi. The Atlanta's MSA contains 28 counties, the Phoenix MSA has 2. Phoenix is a victim of the OMB's accounting methods for MSA calculation. Those two counties are largely uninhabited desert, in fact less than 15% of Phoenix's entire MSA is actually developed. It's such a skewed number that you can be 20 minutes from Downtown Tucson on I-10 and still be statistically in the Phoenix MSA. All of this because barely 25% of Pinal Counties workforce commutes into Maricopa County. Of that workforce 90% of them live on the immediate border of the two counties. But because of that all 5300 sq mi of it gets counted in the PHX-MSA and you get your "land area" metric.
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Last edited by mjlo; 09-14-2015 at 09:19 AM..
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