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Old 06-04-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Hollywood, CA
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In the day to day lifestyle of hipsterdom?

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Old 06-04-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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How do you even measure something like this?
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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How do you even measure something like this?
I don't know. Is this supposed to be based on total hipsters or per capita hipsters... I think the Census Bureau just started measuring this one...
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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Portland is much more hipster.

In certain neighborhoods of Brooklyn there are hipsters (i.e. Greenpoint, Williamsburg, Park Slope) but by large it's very diverse...there are many more African Americans, Hispanics, Russians, Jewish People than hipsters in the borough.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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In raw numbers, I don't see how anything could really beat Brooklyn.

I still find it interesting that hipsters are so prominently associated with the borough that raised Al Capone, Mike Tyson, and Ol' Dirty Bastard.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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I would think that Brooklyn would probably have more "real" hipsters (or at least did at one time) - you know, actual artists that move into less-than-desirable neighborhoods because they are inexpensive and have good location.

Then everyone, starving artists and original residents alike, get priced out when the "fake" hipsters come along. At this point though, the "fakes" are usually what people think of instead of the actual hipsters. I mean, Taylor Swift has a song with a like about "dressing up like hipsters" (I only know because I saw a commercial with that song, I swear! ). How counter-culture!

It's sort of like how the whole Emo thing got blown out of proportion a few years ago.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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How do you even measure something like this?
We could try to get an extremely rough estimate. The University of Minnesota has a database that has tons of detailed data related to migration, demographics, etc.

If we controlled for all white people moving into the 11206, 11211 and 11237 zip codes from Midwestern states within the last decade, we'd probably get some idea of the Hipster population in BK. Then you could take all recent black migrants (excluding all from the Caribbean and Africa) and figure out a way to guesstimate that subset of the Hipster population. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say 3 out of every 100 hipsters in Brooklyn is non-white.

That would be a starting point.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:23 PM
 
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I would say Brooklyn has far more hipsters in raw totals, but Portland is significantly more thoughly hipster in %.

They're definitely the two most hipster locales in the U.S., though. Williamsburg, Brooklyn is probably the world center of hipsterdom.
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Old 06-04-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I would think that Brooklyn would probably have more "real" hipsters (or at least did at one time) - you know, actual artists that move into less-than-desirable neighborhoods because they are inexpensive and have good location.

Then everyone, starving artists and original residents alike, get priced out when the "fake" hipsters come along. At this point though, the "fakes" are usually what people think of instead of the actual hipsters. I mean, Taylor Swift has a song with a like about "dressing up like hipsters" (I only know because I saw a commercial with that song, I swear! ). How counter-culture!

It's sort of like how the whole Emo thing got blown out of proportion a few years ago.
See, I don't consider starving artists to be hipsters. A hipster is someone who rides a 14 foot unicycle down Flatbush Avenue with this "Why are people looking at me? I'm just riding my unicycle" look on his face. It's the attention-seeking behavior that bothers most people.

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Old 06-04-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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The whole "hipster" thing got played out somewhere around 2007. Even complaining about hipsters in recent years has been considered a little passe... People can't even get the cliches right about hipsters these days... I heard someone at my office make a joke about "trucker hats" and combovers when it seems like that was almost a decade ago when that look was really popular... Nowdays "hipsters" have like weird fade haircuts and dress really sort of preppy. There's always been young people in the some urban scene who dress a certain trendy look of the period--only these days there's just bigger marketing push behind it.

The people defined as hipsters in both cities are concentrated in certain areas. Brooklyn it's Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Park Slope and then into other adjacent neighborhoods. In Portland it's mainly inner SE Portland north of Powell and east of 60th to about Burnside and then a few areas like Alberta or Mississippi or parts of downtown. You would never find a hipster in Portland anywhere east of 82nd Avenue or near N Columbia Blvd or the West Hills or almost anywhere in SW Portland south of downtown. Same thing with you're not going to find hipsters in Brooklyn in Canarsie or Brownsville or so on... Honestly, going to parts of Los Angeles or San Francisco or Seattle seem just as trendy as either city...

Pretty soon though, a certain poster will show up here to lecture us on how hipsters are everyone in their twenties who lives in "Portland, Seattle, Austin, Boston, and San Francisco"....
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