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Old 08-24-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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To Scale Maps showing the principal clusters of 5,000+ppsm of the following cities:
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Finally, a 'to-scale' map comparison that shows what some of us already knew, and you apparently cannot see... the Bay Area is a very limited ring of density, with population dropping to nearly zero just a couple miles outside of 'the ring'. The other metros cover much more area with a gradual drop-off in density. Greater Boston and SF Bay Area look about equal, an assessment quite a few people agree with.

Every time I take a bike ride, I'm reminded of how wrong you are. Love this City of Philly.

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To Scale Maps showing the principal clusters of 5,000+ppsm of the following cities:

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Old 08-24-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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the Bay Area is a very limited ring of density, with population dropping to nearly zero just a couple miles outside of 'the ring'.
Yes, the fact that we have water and hills that leaves us narrow strips of land and valleys, that formula creates conditions for higher density overall over a wide area. I dont know what I am missing?

The Bay Area's 5000+map above could have been much larger but I cut it cause of space constraints on the page, otherwise:



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Old 08-24-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Just the same tired old point, that your criteria exaggerate that 'big city' qualities of the Bay Area. It's the old bartender trick... if you want to make a drink look larger, pour it into a tall & narrow glass.

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Yes, the fact that we have water and hills that leaves us narrow strips of land and valleys, that formula creates conditions for higher density overall over a wide area. I dont know what I am missing?

The Bay Area's 5000+map above could have been much larger but I cut it cause of space containts on the page, otherwise:

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Just the same tired old point, that your criteria exaggerate that 'big city' qualities of the Bay Area. It's the old bartender trick... if you want to make a drink look larger, pour it into a tall & narrow glass.
LOL...your the one suddenly trying to simultaneously extol the virtues of low density suburbia while delegitimizing higher density suburbia, but Im the one trying to make a drink look larger.

Laughable.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Also, I eagerly await a response to this post:

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the QUANTITATIVE footprint of continuously developed 10K plus density is 200sq miles.
Even within Philadelphia proper, there are plenty of neighborhoods with less than 10,000+ppsm
https://www.city-data.com/nbmaps/neig...nsylvania.html

So please list all the Philadelphia(and surrounding cities) neighborhoods that add up to 200 square miles of contiguously developed 10,000+ density.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Anyhow, some comparisons might be fun.

Here's one that is very interesting:
Las Vegas and Salt Lake City To Scale:
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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I agree with some SF posters that the adjacent/surrounding cities must be taken in to account for in some and I would even say most cities it feels like an extension of the city, that being said one has to understand also that the Northeast cities have adjacent suburbs that have their own city centers that would LOOK and maybe feel more urban by means of urban fabric by the set up and architecture, however this northeast trait takes away from the usual seamless blend that you find in other cities down south or out west, the main difference is you usually know in the northeast when you have entered in to a different city where as in others they just all blend.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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Not sure why a bunch of highlighted maps are supposed to support what city "feels" bigger. Here's my vote for biggest feeling cities:

1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. LA
4. Philly
5. SF
6. Boston
7. DC
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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To add to my previous post I do find that northeast burbs for the reason I have already stated have more charm and character.
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