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"We" are only those who believe, not all of humanity.
Everyone believes at a different time. So when you once didn't believe, you would not have accepted that you would eventually be saved, so according to your logic, you couldn't believe now.
But since your logic is in error, you do believe now.
The problem is not that the declaration that God will have all men saved did not apply to you because you didn't believe. It did apply to you, you just didn't believe it at the time.
So all believers were once not believers and all unbelievers are eventually saved.
Everyone believes at a different time. So when you once didn't believe, you would not have accepted that you would eventually be saved, so according to your logic, you couldn't believe now.
But since your logic is in error, you do believe now.
The problem is not that the declaration that God will have all men saved did not apply to you because you didn't believe. It did apply to you, you just didn't believe it at the time.
So all believers were once not believers and all unbelievers are eventually saved.
All the elect were once unbelievers, but never unsaved [children of the devil]..they have always been Justified before God..
They have been unconverted, but never unsaved..and the devil and his children will never be saved, this is their portion: matt 25
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Jesus presents them with hopelessness here to:
Matt 23:
32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
The contradictions are in your blinded mind..they will never be resolved unless your an elect and God converts you from your sinful ways..
You have already shown the contradiction to your God himself in many of your own comments. Anyone can accuse another of being blinded, proves nothing, demonstrates nothing.
God converts everyone from their sinful ways and that will be testified in due time.
Of course you will say that, but your own words have said that it is God that does it. Do you deny your own doctrine now?
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