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Submariner · 01-14-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bigthirsty

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You have no problem with that? That God willfully let Satan bestow deeds of bad fortune on Job.. as a test. That isn't "letting him trouble him". Thats outright abusing him. ...

A test?

The book says it was all a test?

Where?

Job explains that he brought it all upon himself.

bigthirsty · 01-14-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

A test?

The book says it was all a test?

Where?

Job explains that he brought it all upon himself.

Did he? What are others opinions?

Submariner · 01-15-2009, 08:18 AM

Job was a righteous man.

Then:

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Job 1:5 When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would send and have them purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, “Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” This was Job's regular custom.

Job began fearing for his son's souls. Job tried to pay for his son's sins himself.

And after all the lose happened in Job's life; Job said:

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... Job 3:25 What I feared has come upon me; what I dreaded has happened to me.

He explained that exactly what had happened, was what he had been fearing might happen.

Job's 'miserable comforters' never hit on this point. God described Job's behavior and motives; and Job said in his own words his fear.

Way at the end of the book, you can read of how Job was released from his fears and from his bondage.

beeveenh · 01-15-2009, 08:27 AM

Don't forget that the children that Job lost, he will get back.

Deguire · 01-15-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by beeveenh

Don't forget that the children that Job lost, he will get back.

That must make him feel real wonderful.

Submariner · 01-15-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bigthirsty

Did he? What are others opinions?

Studying God's Word is not about what people's opinions are.

It is about God's Word.

Man's opinions and doctrine will change every day. God's Word does not change.

bigthirsty · 01-15-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

Studying God's Word is not about what people's opinions are.

It is about God's Word.

Man's opinions and doctrine will change every day. God's Word does not change.

Thanks for your opinion.

Any other opinions?

I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA · 01-15-2009, 10:01 AM

Job finally learned when nothing else was left, he had God and that was enough.
That is what I have learned from Job, God is enough.

bigthirsty · 01-15-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA

Job finally learned when nothing else was left, he had God and that was enough.
That is what I have learned from Job, God is enough.

Thanks ILNC. I hope you know I respect your opinion on the subject.

It just seems to me the "it was a means to an end" is a dangerous precedent in this example.

I can't get over that piece of it.

The "end" part I get.

How we get from beginning to end.. is troublesome to me.

I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA · 01-15-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bigthirsty

Thanks ILNC. I hope you know I respect your opinion on the subject.

It just seems to me the "it was a means to an end" is a dangerous precedent in this example.

I can't get over that piece of it.

The "end" part I get.

How we get from beginning to end.. is troublesome to me.

I believe how we get from beginning to end is by trusting God