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Hi Matthew, I agree that the grave ends up in the lake of fire. I believe that the lake of fire has a higher purpose, in consideration of other scriptures which speak to the final promise for all people, and the purpose of fire and brimstone. As far as unrepenting wicked... Nothing is impossible for God..................
To me it would be wrong for God to force anyone to repent or to force anyone to worship Him against one's will.
To me the 'higher purpose' of the lake of fire is: second death - Rev. 21:8
No resurrection from ' second death ' - Jeremiah 51:39; Jeremiah 51:57.
Sinner Satan ends up in ' second death ' - Rev. 21:8; Hebrews 2:14 B
As the grave comes to a final end so does Satan and his demons go out of existence. No eternal life for Satan.
Sinner Satan is a sinner and Satan will never repent. "Death" is the price tag that sin pays and Sinner Satan is a sinner.
Thus, all sinners pay the price of sin which is : death.
However, there will be No resurrection for wicked dead sinner Satan. - Rev. 21:8
To me it would be wrong for God to force anyone to repent or to force anyone to worship Him against one's will.
To me the 'higher purpose' of the lake of fire is: second death - Rev. 21:8
No resurrection from ' second death ' - Jeremiah 51:39; Jeremiah 51:57.
Sinner Satan ends up in ' second death ' - Rev. 21:8; Hebrews 2:14 B
As the grave comes to a final end so does Satan and his demons go out of existence. No eternal life for Satan.
Sinner Satan is a sinner and Satan will never repent. "Death" is the price tag that sin pays and Sinner Satan is a sinner.
Thus, all sinners pay the price of sin which is : death.
However, there will be No resurrection for wicked dead sinner Satan. - Rev. 21:8
Matthew, do you believe that it would be wrong for God to gain the allegiance of all people that He created? Would it be wrong for Him to open all eyes and all hearts to see their need for Him? Why do you think that it would be wrong for the Creator to force His Sovereign will on His own creation? I can never understand why believers feel that this is wrong. Again, with God all things are possible. He has all power. Death is to be made of no effect one day. God bless.
People go to whatever afterlife their religion subscribes to. As far as I know, Christianity is the only religion that has a place of eternal torture and punishments. Other religions do not have an equivalent to Hell. So, you won't find any non-Christians in Hell. They will be wherever the rest of the folks from their religion go to.
The Bible does Not teach ' afterlife ' ( meaning: being more alive after death than before death )
Christianity does Not have eternal torture but ' destruction ' for the wicked - Psalms 92:7; 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22
Biblical hell is simply mankind's temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead til Resurrection Day.- Acts 24:15
- John 11:11-14; Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5
Resurrection Day (John 6:40,44) is Jesus' coming Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth for a thousand years.
Matthew, do you believe that it would be wrong for God to gain the allegiance of all people that He created? Would it be wrong for Him to open all eyes and all hearts to see their need for Him? Why do you think that it would be wrong for the Creator to force His Sovereign will on His own creation? I can never understand why believers feel that this is wrong. Again, with God all things are possible. He has all power. Death is to be made of no effect one day. God bless.
Yes, 'enemy death ' will be of No effect one day ( Jesus' thousand-year day ) - 1st. Cor. 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8
Please notice the little word 'if' at 1st John 1:7.
"if" is a little word but it carries with it a BIG meaning.
"if" is why Matthew 20:28 says Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say all.
Please notice the 'seeking with conditions to be met' is on our part at Zephaniah 2:3
Yes, 'enemy death ' will be of No effect one day ( Jesus' thousand-year day ) - 1st. Cor. 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8
Please notice the little word 'if' at 1st John 1:7.
"if" is a little word but it carries with it a BIG meaning.
"if" is why Matthew 20:28 says Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say all.
Please notice the 'seeking with conditions to be met' is on our part at Zephaniah 2:3
Hi Matthew,Jesus died for all people and gave His life as a ransom for many and He gave His life as a ransom for all. 1 Timothy 2:6. I believe that death and hades will be abolished made of no effect in the lake of fire. Are you able to answer my questions? God bless.
The Bible does Not teach ' afterlife ' ( meaning: being more alive after death than before death )
Christianity does Not have eternal torture but ' destruction ' for the wicked - Psalms 92:7; 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22
Biblical hell is simply mankind's temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead til Resurrection Day.- Acts 24:15
- John 11:11-14; Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5
Resurrection Day (John 6:40,44) is Jesus' coming Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth for a thousand years.
You really should go by what the Bible says instead of your leaders. Have you read Revelation? It absolutely tells us that we will live on for eternity, with God as our God. In his glorious presence.
You really should go by what the Bible says instead of your leaders. Have you read Revelation? It absolutely tells us that we will live on for eternity, with God as our God. In his glorious presence.
Revelation is an interesting book. I wonder what the author had ingested before writing it.
Revelations was written around 90-100AD.
Enoch 1 predates Revelations (50-2BC) and tells a very similar story.
The fact that you call it "Revelations" and you seem to consider Enoch 1 authentic really says a lot.
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