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"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself allthings, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."
Please note
"Things" should be in [bracket]. It is NOT in the koine: NOT!
The Father has a complete guarantee with His handiwork (the Plan of all plans). All possible defects have been thoroughly examined & found to be defect free. In short, it is a perfect product completely ready for the creation He has made.
He prides himself on setting right each and every product He has made!
"Plato said that justice is giving every man his due. That's been a standard concept. You can argue that for the prophets God's righteousness is shown by removing evil and restoring relationships, but that idea hasn't dominated Christian theology. Rather, the idea is that because of the Fall, we are evil, and merit infinite punishment.
The idea that justice means punishment is baked into many areas of theology, and many traditional exegeses of Biblical passages. You're not going to have much luck convincing anyone who is committed to traditional interpretations. That's pretty much everyone except liberal Protestants, together with Catholic Biblical scholars."
My friend:
The fall of A. & E. resulted in all of us "being made" sinners by "no choice of our own", but by "reason of Him" who so subjected it. In short, the fall into sin by A. & E. was all part & parcel of our Great God & His mighty Plan of reconciliation.
Regarding Plato: Divine justice is not giving "man his due" but bathing His justice in mercy & His mercy never fails nor His essence, LOVE.
Concerning what "has dominated" Christian Theology & "traditional interpretations", it simply shows how deep the fall of all falls is!
Hi from Shana, an old poster, who hasn't been on here in awhile. I am a firm believer in the restoration of all people to God through Jesus Christ and I still love to discuss this topic. Hope everyone is doing well and I miss being over here. God bless.
Hi from Shana, an old poster, who hasn't been on here in awhile. I am a firm believer in the restoration of all people to God through Jesus Christ and I still love to discuss this topic. Hope everyone is doing well and I miss being over here. God bless.
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