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Old 10-09-2020, 10:45 AM
 
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Dear St. Paul: Please be advised the Baptist dude says what you wrote is a fairy tale giving people a false sense of security.

"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance--the forgiveness of our offences--so abundant was God's grace, the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him."
Paul never said Jesus saves all regardless of their faith in him or not.

 
Old 10-09-2020, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Paul never said Jesus saves all regardless of their faith in him or not.
The difficulty you are having is believing his grace and love is not effective and efficient, both mean capable of producing a result in the heart; and mind of all humanity in due time. Oh, ye of little faith.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 12:10 PM
 
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The Cynic rarely expresses true love for others.
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OH, I wouldn't accuse the Lord, who said; "Those who win the victory will receive this from me: I will be their God, and they will be my children. But cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practise magic, those who worship idols, and all liars — the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death,” as being a cynic, as you have done.

Let me assure you Jerwade, the 'SON OF God' does not love those who hate his Father, and who have sworn that they would have nothing to do with such a God.
The bigotry and hate you exhibit comes through loud and clear.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 12:51 PM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Paul never said Jesus saves all regardless of their faith in him or not.
Fundie: The Master or Reconciliation declares He will draw/ drag off in power/ all mankind to Himself.

He also allows nothing to be lost, not leftover pieces of bread & fish, and most surely those for whom He is the Mercy Seat!
 
Old 10-09-2020, 12:55 PM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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The glorious Goal of all this is is Him!

He is the End & the Beginning of the all, the ta panta.

Source, Guide, Goal of the all
 
Old 10-09-2020, 12:57 PM
 
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The bigotry and hate you exhibit comes through loud and clear.
Jer: A mite too loud and clearly a product of his new book, my humility & how I attained it.
 
Old 10-09-2020, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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The bigotry and hate you exhibit comes through loud and clear.
Hey! I'm not the one who accused the heavenly Father of Jesus, of committing heinous crimes against mankind, and who swore to have nothing to do with such a God.

Do you still hold those views, or have you repented of insulting the heavenly power, and are you now prepared to do what the Father wants of you?

Revelation 3: 12; "I will make those who are victorious pillars in the temple of 'MY GOD' and they will never leave it. I will write on them the name of 'MY GOD' and the name of the city of 'MY GOD', the new Jerusalem, which will come down out of heaven from 'MY GOD.' I will also write on them my new name.

Matthew 7:21-23 GNB “Not everyone who calls me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do."

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Old 10-09-2020, 04:27 PM
 
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Hey! I'm not the one who accused the heavenly Father of Jesus, of committing heinous crimes against mankind, and who swore to have nothing to do with such a God.

Do you still hold those views, or have you repented of insulting the heavenly power, and are you now prepared to do what the Father wants of you?

Revelation 3: 12; "I will make those who are victorious pillars in the temple of 'MY GOD' and they will never leave it. I will write on them the name of 'MY GOD' and the name of the city of 'MY GOD', the new Jerusalem, which will come down out of heaven from 'MY GOD.' I will also write on them my new name.

Matthew 7:21-23 GNB “Not everyone who calls me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do."
I could never follow a 'GOD' that would slaughter innocent women, children or infants.
But I do not have to concern myself with that, as that is a 'GOD' made in 'YOUR' image.

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Old 10-09-2020, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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I could never follow a 'GOD' that would slaughter innocent women, children or infants.
But I do not have to concern myself with that, as that is a 'GOD' made in 'YOUR' image.
Fair enough, the choice of life or death has been placed before you, the God of Jesus, who raises the innocent to everlasting life, is the same God, who casts the Goats into the eternal fire, which he has prepared for the devil and his angels, which lake, burning with fire and sulphur, is the second death, to those goats, which are under God's curse, such as the cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practise magic, those who worship idols, and all liars,

To the 'The Son of Man' at the ends of time, who can, and does descend into his past, all the descendants of Adam still live in his past, and He knows that you have chosen 'of your own free will' to reject his most righteous Father, and of what accusations you bring against His Father, in fact he knows what everyone in his past has done according to their own free will.

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Old 10-09-2020, 08:19 PM
 
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Our Father is revealed in the most intimate terms possible by our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ

His Name is Abba, Dearest Daddy.

Dearest Daddy will never let us go, ever! The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases, ever!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGAPkKXBQKI
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