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Old 12-29-2007, 06:20 PM
 
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Short answer: no.

Good thing the Bible makes clear over and over that (someday) every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
Hi JeffnCandace, it's good to see you God bless.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:17 PM
 
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Hi I believe that the spirit which returns to God is not conscious but the soul, which I believe to be the personality, consciousness, thoughts of humans ceases to exist when the body dies.

When God created Adam, He breathed into him the breath of life and Adam became a living being or living soul. Many compare this to what happens with a light bulb. Electricity has to unite with the bulb in order for the light to come on. When the electricity goes out the light goes out. When the breath of life is removed the body dies and the soul no longer operates, functions, exists.


Job 27:3-4 speaks about the breath and the spirit.

"For as long as life/breath is in me and the breath of God is in my nostrils, my lips certainly will not speak unjustly…” (NAS)


Psalm 146:2-4
"I will praise the Lord while I live; I will sing praises to my God while I have my being. Do not trust in princes in mortal man in whom there is no salvation. His spirit departs, he returns to the earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.” (NAS)

God bless.

Yes old body do loose it thoughts etc.. because its not alive no more.

but I still do not see our spirit being like a comma The soul and spirit are two different things.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:26 PM
 
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Hi HistoryasIs, I forgot to post for Job 27:3-4

Job 27:3-4 speaks about the breath and the spirit.

"For as long as life/breath is in me and the *breath of God is in my nostrils, my lips certainly will not speak unjustly…” (NAS)

Breath also refers to the spirit breathed into God by man. I don't believe that the spirit and the soul are the same either but I don't believe that the spirit is conscious or even in a coma. In this respect it is that breath of life, the element of life in us that returns to God when we all die. God bless.

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Old 12-29-2007, 08:08 PM
 
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i can see what your saying.


Daniel says some will awake to everlasting contempt and others everlasting peace or somthing like that.

I mighted mis-quote the verse if so if anyone knows plz correct me
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:39 PM
 
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To the christians : Can you be saved or go to heaven or paradise or whatever you wanna call it without Jesus? Will you best friend or lover or kid, who was essentially a good person, but not a follower of Jesus, wake up in heaven should they die tonight?
No ! john14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:48 PM
 
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i can see what your saying.


Daniel says some will awake to everlasting contempt and others everlasting peace or somthing like that.

I mighted mis-quote the verse if so if anyone knows plz correct me
Hi HistoryasIs, Young's Literal translation

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And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches -- to abhorrence age-during.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:58 PM
 
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Daniel 12:2 (King James Version)

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2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:08 PM
 
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Daniel 12:2 (King James Version)

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2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Yes History...but what Shana is trying to point out is that the LITERAL translation is quite different.

God bless!
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:54 AM
 
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Yes History...but what Shana is trying to point out is that the LITERAL translation is quite different.

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what different in young literal translation?

different words same meanings?
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:54 AM
 
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what different in young literal translation?

different words same meanings?
Definately not. Different words and different meanings.
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