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Old 07-19-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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Scripture says when a mans ways please The Lord,He makes even his enemies at peace with him. Well the good news is God said this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased, so as far as I am concerned all the enemies of God will not perish but be at peace with God.

Now this is good news..
Wow, great scripture pcamps, thanks for sharing!

Proverbs 16:7
When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

 
Old 07-19-2013, 09:00 PM
 
Location: New England
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too bad that in the same breath pcamps thinks "We have no truth unless it's set us free, no matter how much you think you can prove truth by the bible. Welcome to the 21st century." .... hypocrisy that is.
You have a real problem understanding that scriptures testify of the truth............who is................drum roll............Jesus Christ.

Tell me what use is your assumed truth if it does not set you free ?. Exactly its not worth the paper it is written on.

The hypocrisy is believing you have the truth and you remain enslaved to your old concept of God.

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Old 07-19-2013, 09:51 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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You have a real problem understanding that scriptures testify of the truth............who is................drum roll............Jesus Christ.

Tell me what use is your assumed truth if it does not set you free ?. Exactly its not worth the paper it is written on.

The hypocrisy is believing you have the truth and you remain enslaved to your old concept of God.
Well .. the parts of the Bible that pcamps doesn't like is judged to be "not worth the paper it is written on."
John 3:20
"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed."
That's why universalism is Satanical answer against Jesus speaking about hell and those condemned there.... for "fear that their deeds will be exposed"

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Old 07-20-2013, 06:08 AM
 
Location: In a state of Grace
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Well .. the parts of the Bible that pcamps doesn't like is judged to be "not worth the paper it is written on."
John 3:20
"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed."
That's why universalism is Satanical answer against Jesus speaking about hell and those condemned there.... for "fear that their deeds will be exposed"
What an astute observation! This may also explain there constant fixation on hell and eternal punishment rather than the Good News of Jesus Christ. Where Christians share that God has made a way to avoid such a place they just want to get people to reject God and pretend there is no such place or it will just be a temporary thing and then even the vilest sinner will be forced to worship God and be saved.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 06:20 AM
 
Location: New England
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Well .. the parts of the Bible that pcamps doesn't like is judged to be "not worth the paper it is written on."
John 3:20
"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed."
That's why universalism is Satanical answer against Jesus speaking about hell and those condemned there.... for "fear that their deeds will be exposed"
Deeds ? All deeds done in the spirit are born out of love, something you consistently scorn .What matters to you and the rest of the Fundamentalsts is thinking you are 100% right in what you believe. You are focused 100% of the time on damnation and being doctrinally correct while completely ignoring the teachings of Jesus which to a blind man on a galloping horse are obvious. How you come away from hearing Jesus Christ teach and get from it damnation 100% of the time is just unbelievable. You are a follower of John the Baptist at best who was not the Light,and even John ripped into the serpents the brood of vipers who thought being 100% correct in what they thought the scriptures said made them right with God, but were the biggest devils walking the face of the earth.

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Old 07-20-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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Is universalism Biblical
No, it is not, but why should that matter when the universalists are first to dismiss the Bible as "rants of ancient savages"?
 
Old 07-20-2013, 06:47 AM
 
Location: New England
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No, it is not, but why should that matter when the universalists are first to dismiss the Bible as "rants of ancient savages"?
There is only one person who consistently says this on this forum, and you know this. So why would you make such a broad statement like this ?.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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What an astute observation! This may also explain there constant fixation on hell and eternal punishment rather than the Good News of Jesus Christ. Where Christians share that God has made a way to avoid such a place they just want to get people to reject God and pretend there is no such place or it will just be a temporary thing and then even the vilest sinner will be forced to worship God and be saved.
Amen....
God has always given Twin the insight to expose the errors of this false teaching.... and it really makes many go into a tail spin !! Which I believe...... John 3:20
"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed."..... the fear and hating the Light of Christ will cause for the angry responses, and false accusations, and the personal attacks..... it is the deeds of evil being exposed, amen !!



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No, it is not, but why should that matter when the universalists are first to dismiss the Bible as "rants of ancient savages"?
Amen, and that is one of the many reasons why it is NOT biblical.
The false accusations against the OT godly men and prophets of God calling it the.... "rants of ancient savages", it is also the denying and rejecting Christ, twisting the word of God to fit the theology and there is so much more.
God is faithful and will keep the heart that seeks Him in Spirit and truth. And will not permit them to be ensnared by this false teaching. Amen

Thank goodness for the men of God here to expose the lies of this teaching, amen !!
 
Old 07-20-2013, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Finn that scripture does not help you out. What you are doing is saying this scripture

John 12:47

47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

is wrong because of the scripture you qouted.

Christ centered universalsits do not have to do that Finn for we know that every knee shall bow in worship and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Thus ALL WILL BELIEVE.
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I was hoping it would help you understand the truth. It clarifies only those who believe will be saved, and the same point is repeated some 200 times in the Bible. It is crystal clear, and it is repeated over and over, so there would be no mistaking it, but apparently someone talked you into not believing it.

 
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