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Old 06-20-2011, 07:35 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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If you were using your spiritual eyes, you wouldn't think it is a great link.

Your spiritual eyes should tell you that this is how ministers promote ideology without having to back it up with scripture. This is where Mike555 gets the teaching instruction on how to promote ideas that aren't in scripture and make it look like they are. He does it all the time.

Read it again with those eyes you say you have.


No Mike gets his thoughts from God and God's Word. Everything he says is in line with God's Word.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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To make sure that people understand, the Bible is clear that all three Persons of the Godhead indwell the believer.
Clearly if it were clear there wouldn't need to be a discussion at all..
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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No Mike gets his thoughts from God and God's Word. Everything he says is in line with God's Word.
Pure conjecture, but you are welcome to follow the Pied Piper of Fundamentalism @ doctrines.com

For me, it is NOT about living a perfect life of sacrifice, suffering, and that of denial.
But that of ALL HUMANITY - coming together in love; serving and caring for each other.


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Old 06-20-2011, 10:47 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Clearly if it were clear there wouldn't need to be a discussion at all..
The above statement is in reference to the following:

Originally Posted by Mike555
To make sure that people understand, the Bible is clear that all three Persons of the Godhead indwell the believer.


Here are the Scriptural references to the indwelling of the three Persons of the Godhead in the believer:

The indwelling of God the Father: John 14:22-23; Eph 4:6; Phil 2:13; 1 John 4:15; 2 John 1:9.

The indwelling of Jesus Christ: John 14:20; John 17:22-23,26; Rom 8:10; 2 Cor 13:5; Gal 2:20a; Col 1:27.

The indwelling of God the Holy Spirit: Rom 8:11; 1 Cor 3:16; 1 Cor 6:19; 2 Cor 6:16.

Again, the Bible is clear that all three Persons of the Godhead indwell the believer.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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John 14:23
Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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Pure conjecture, but you are welcome to follow the Pied Piper of Fundamentalism @ doctrines.com

For me, it is NOT about living a perfect life of sacrifice, suffering, and that of denial.
But that of ALL HUMANITY - coming together in love; serving and caring for each other.


I follow God and so does Mike. It's about Jesus and knowing Him as my Savior, loving Him and being obedient to Him.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Your false doctrines divide, but rest assured; there are a few herein who have not hardened their hearts, neither has the Spirit that indwells them.
Amen Jerwade...what saddens me more is that sooooooooo many are deceived and misled by these ignorant false doctrines of men.
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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I follow God and so does Mike. It's about Jesus and knowing Him as my Savior, loving Him and being obedient to Him.
As long as you limit your faith to this and Christ's commands to "love God and each other" there would be no division among Christians.
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Your false doctrines divide, but rest assured; there are a few herein who have not hardened their hearts, neither has the Spirit that indwells them.
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No Mike gets his thoughts from God and God's Word. Everything he says is in line with God's Word.
It is the "precepts and doctrines of men" that divide us and Mike is a major proponent of them. It is all the non-essential doctrines that divide. As you said "It's about Jesus and knowing Him as my Savior, loving Him and being obedient to Him." . . . and it is about following His commands to "love God and each other" . . all else is vanity and human hubris.
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Amen Jerwade...what saddens me more is that sooooooooo many are deceived and misled by these ignorant false doctrines of men.
As long as the false "precepts and doctrines of men" promote power and control (and money) the corruption will continue.
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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You fail to distinquish between the nature of God and the plan of God. In their nature, all three Persons are co-equal and co-eternal. In the plan of God, each Person of the Godhead agreed to fulfill His respective part in the plan. This means that Jesus agreed to come into the world as a man and submit Himself to the will of the Father and go to the cross. The Holy Spirit agreed to among other things, be the power, the energizer of the believers spiritual life. Each Person of the Godhead has His part in the plan of salvation for man.

The deity of Christ was not generated by the Father. Nor was the Holy Spirit.
RESPONSE:

Mike 555 says "The deity of Christ was not generated by the Father" But

"And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds" (Niceen Creed)

Mike 555 says "Each Person of the Godhead has His part in the plan of salvation for man."

But if they have a different part, they are not the same or co-equal are they? Something is different in each's activity.
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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No Mike gets his thoughts from God and God's Word. Everything he says is in line with God's Word.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good one.
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