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There are passages in the New Testament which state that Jesus Christ is God. Three such passages are Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, and John 20:28.
Titus 2:13 'looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus;
2 Peter 1:1 'Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ;
John 20:28 'Thomas answered and said to Him, ''My Lord and my God!''
Rule #1 of Granville Sharp's rule of Greek Grammar, according to Granville Sharp, is:
"When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case [viz. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connection, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill,] if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle: i.e., it denotes a farther description of the first named person."
A more detailed description of Sharp's rule, with the remaining rules and exceptions can be found at the following sites. People should make an effort to study this rule to understand that Jesus Christ is indeed referred to as God.
The Greek article 'ho' is translated as the, this, that, one, he, she, or it.
The Greek word Kai is a conjunction translated as and, even, or also.
Sharp's rule shows that Matthew 28:19. ''...in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,'' refers to three separate Persons. Each of whom are declared to be God.
The Holy Spirit is directly called God in Acts 5:3,4. ''...why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit...You have not lied to men, but to God.''
There is no legitimate basis for denying the deity of Jesus Christ and the trinity, or for denying that the Bible clearly states that Jesus Christ is God.
There are numerous passages other than just the few which I gave above that state that Jesus is God.
Jesus ,Himself made the affermation in His own ministry.
Furthermore,
John 1 ; In the beginning was the word , and the word was God and the same was in the beginning with God , and all things were made by Him and with out him was nothing made that was made
In the old testament God appearances are excepted to be that of Jesus..
Angels of God do not allow one to worship them , However Jesus accepted worship regularly, and as a matter of fact it was expected. (insadent of the healing 10 lepers) , His reserection and appearance in the upper room, and Thomas' aclaimation "My Lord and My God". If this were not so Jesus would have prevented it.
Beyond that ,Today His name has the power to heal and change lives ,it is also the one name much of the world knows and abuses, not even knowing who Jesus is.
Men are most willing to neglect, excuse , accuse at a distance, but the true scientist will make every effort to disprove a theory by putting them self in ,not just speculating from with out. Because he knows that the human capacity of recognition and explaination are limited ,looking through the eyes of another man's expirence. He must see for himself,taste for himself,feel for himself, to undrstand the full value of a given thing.
It is why men go to space ,discover the sea, develop microscopes to split atoms, ect...
What is to be feared by letting Jesus into one's life ???
If you don't try and seek out God ,it remains obvious you resist God ,knowing that a change must occur once the realization is met, and your hold on the unbelief, and sin, and excuse, you enjoy, is at risk.
The enemy of one's soul (Satan) will provide excuse after excuse,even using scriptures to reinforce them, He did it with Jesus,(Matthew 4 he'll do it with you.
The question is one's determinating to seek out and obey God, and not be caught up in self seeking manipulating the scriptures to suit one's self, forming a god in their own immage. We already see a lot of this.
Many of us know very well, the intervention God extends in our lives, answers to prayer, healing and guidance in our lives .
For us whom walk in this regularly, it is a mystery why the unbelieving world should remain so distant.
>>Jesus, Himself made the affermation in His own ministry.
RESPONSE:
No he didn't. In the synoptic gospels and Acts, Jesus is the messiah, but not divine. If fact, what he is reported to have said indicates that he was lacking in divine attributes, especially that of omniscience. It was only in John's gospel written after 95 AD that it is implied that Jesus is God,although this is not positively asserted.
>Furthermore, John 1 ; In the beginning was the word , and the word was God and the same was in the beginning with God , and all things were made by Him and with out him was nothing made that was made <<
RESPONSE:
"In the beginning" is at the time of creation. This passage is from John (written 95-105 AD) after the legend developed that Jesus was the Logos Or "Word" of God. The "Logos" is found in the writings of the very early Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria.
This legend is taken from Greek cosmology and even predates Plato. Later it was taken up by the writers of John's gospel.
Incidentally, the Logos was a created being, the firstborn of creation, and the artifactor, the "builder " of the rest of creation.
There are passages in the New Testament which state that Jesus Christ is God. Three such passages are Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, and John 20:28.
Titus 2:13 'looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus;
2 Peter 1:1 'Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ;
John 20:28 'Thomas answered and said to Him, ''My Lord and my God!''
Rule #1 of Granville Sharp's rule of Greek Grammar, according to Granville Sharp, is:
"When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case [viz. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connection, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill,] if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle: i.e., it denotes a farther description of the first named person."
A more detailed description of Sharp's rule, with the remaining rules and exceptions can be found at the following sites. People should make an effort to study this rule to understand that Jesus Christ is indeed referred to as God.
The Greek article 'ho' is translated as the, this, that, one, he, she, or it.
The Greek word Kai is a conjunction translated as and, even, or also.
Sharp's rule shows that Matthew 28:19. ''...in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,'' refers to three separate Persons. Each of whom are declared to be God.
The Holy Spirit is directly called God in Acts 5:3,4. ''...why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit...You have not lied to men, but to God.''
There is no legitimate basis for denying the deity of Jesus Christ and the trinity, or for denying that the Bible clearly states that Jesus Christ is God.
There are numerous passages other than just the few which I gave above that state that Jesus is God.
Sounds like one needs a degree in rocket science to see it the way you do, sir.
Then the alternative is not to use rocket science to disprove it. It doesn't matter what .... those who don't believe will not do so no matter what "proof" is presented (at any intelligent level)
A non rocket science way of showing the existance of the diety of Jesus
is:
Colossians 2:9
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
Then the alternative is not to use rocket science to disprove it. It doesn't matter what .... those who don't believe will not do so no matter what "proof" is presented (at any intelligent level)
A non rocket science way of showing the existance of the diety of Jesus
is:
Colossians 2:9
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
Then the alternative is not to use rocket science to disprove it. It doesn't matter what .... those who don't believe will not do so no matter what "proof" is presented (at any intelligent level)
A non rocket science way of showing the existance of the diety of Jesus
is:
Colossians 2:9
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike555
That says it quite clearly!!!.
That does not make him God. John 3:34 give us clarification. For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit, and Ephesians 3:19 tells us that Christians should also be filled with the fullness of God; that you (saints) may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God
In the book of Acts, Peter the Disciple gives a sermon that appears to reflect the EARLIEST Christian view of Jesus. He says in Acts 2:36:
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ."
Later in the same book (Acts 13:32-33), Paul has this to say:
And we declare to you glad tidings—that promise which was made to the fathers. God has fulfilled this for us their children, in that He has raised up Jesus. As it is also written in the second Psalm:
‘ You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.’
Note that the "raised up" refers to Jesus' alleged resurrection mentioned in verse 30. To the early Christians, Jesus becomes the "son of God" after the resurrection. Before that he was a mere man that God empowered to do great things who was killed by the religious leaders in his prime. God thus, vindicates him by raising him from the dead and then giving him an elevated title - son of God.
Did the early Christian stop there? No. It was an easy leap from there to believe that Jesus must have been the son of God even earlier than that. For those, the belief was that Jesus became the son of God at his baptism. Not surprisingly, the Gospel of Mark, the first Gospel reflect this. In Mark 1:11 at Jesus' baptism, God thunders down the confirmation that Jesus is his son. Here, it does not mean that a "son" in a father participating in a sexual act to bring about a son. "Son," in biblical terms can mean a variety of things, simply one chosen by God to do his will on earth as a type of intermediary. Outside of this, the book of Mark gives no idea that Jesus is more than just a special man, chosen of God at the start of his ministry to be his agent (anointed messiah/son) on earth. There is no Virgin birth or Christmas story involved or needed and so Mark begins with Jesus' adult ministry when he is officially anointed as son of God.
The progression moves from there when we get to the later Gospel of Luke, for example. Here Jesus is the son of God at his birth. Luke then goes on to provide an explanation as to how this was possible and the explanation is found in the oft disputed and incredulous story of the "Virgin birth." Jesus comes into existence AT his special birth when the Holy Spirit of God impregnates Mary.
By the time the Gospel of John rolls around years after the appearance of Mark's Gospel, Jesus is regarded as more than just a mere man who is chosen by God to do his bidding. His has no genesis and has always been with God and frankly, is God himself by extrapolation. He THEN comes into the world AS God in human flesh even though john does not tell us how. We are left to assume John is working with the understood version that he was born of a virgin, but actually existed in eternity past.
This view became the standard within later Christianity. Jesus was the preexistent Word of God who became flesh. As we have seen, however, this was apparently not the original view held by the early Christians. The divinity of Jesus was a later Christian invention found only in one Gospel, John.
Maybe someone can explain something to me. Why is it so important for some people to try so hard to prove that Jesus is not God? I don't get it. I think the scriptures are pretty clear that Jesus is God.
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It's simple,
he'll do it with you.
