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Old 04-29-2009, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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I think I heard on NPR today that the 4-year graduation rate is 2% (and 6-year something like 6%). Can anyone confirm this? It's kind of hard to believe.
How can the number possibly be so low?

And for this the President gets a gorgeous Longwood Drive mansion in Beverly on a hill with a 75K/year maintenance budget.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Logan Square
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i was listening to the same broadcast as you and yes the 4-year grad rate is a pitiful 2% and the 6 year is 14%. i was raised in a state chock full of college students on the "6 year plan" but Chicago State is depressing even by my standards.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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The first question that comes to my mind is how many people are treating CSU like a juco and are transferring to better schools after a year or two? Are these people treated as graduates or non-graduates for the purpose of this particular statistic?

Also, given the economic demographic if your average CSU student, how many are dropping out for financial rather than academic reasons?
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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Even more distressing is how many of students want to work for CPS...

The cycle feeds itself.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:08 AM
 
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The first question that comes to my mind is how many people are treating CSU like a juco and are transferring to better schools after a year or two? Are these people treated as graduates or non-graduates for the purpose of this particular statistic?

Also, given the economic demographic if your average CSU student, how many are dropping out for financial rather than academic reasons?
Very good points.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Your tax dollars at work.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: alt reality
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The first question that comes to my mind is how many people are treating CSU like a juco and are transferring to better schools after a year or two?
Exactly what I and many others did back in 99
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:26 PM
 
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Exactly what I and many others did back in 99
Ive also heard of Loyola and Depaul students taking some GenEd classes at Chicago State as well as NEIU. They couldnt take them at a JUCO because they were not considered in district until they lived in the city for a year.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Berwyn, IL
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My cooperating teacher during my student teaching taught some night classes at Chicago State. She's one of those who escaped from Englewood and supposedly wanted to "reinvest into the community."

She stopped teaching those night classes quickly.

And damn it! I've got a good college education and am well prepared to teach- yet CPS principals haven't called me back. Although, I hear CPS is like anything else ran by Chicago officials: disorganized and slow.

Sorry, I digressed.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:17 PM
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The methodology for the calculation of graduation rate at institutions like Chicago State is flawed, so I wouldn't pay too much attention to that (for reasons stated above). That being said, the school has some major problems, specifically with their Board of Trustees and the whole debacle surrounding the appointment of their new president (you know it is going bad for you when the Chicago Tribune publicly calls for the governor to fire you).
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