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Old 11-14-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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Since when does this guy think he can ignore federal immigration laws? We are a nation of laws. This time of BS is nonsense . We need to follow the laws or have none and live in lawlessness. It is really sad watching this idiot.
I don't think people understand sanctuary cities.

A sanctuary city is a city that adopts local policies designed to not prosecute people solely for being an undocumented individual in the country in which they are currently living. These practices can be by law (de jure) or they can be in fact (de facto). The term generally applies to cities that do not allow municipal funds or resources to be used to enforce national immigration laws, usually by not allowing police or municipal employees to inquire about an individual's immigration status. The designation has no precise legal meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

That's it. Nobody is "shielding" criminals.

Sanctuary cities have decided not to do the federal government's job for them. Simple as that.

BTW, for all you butthurt snowflakes, Chicago has been a sanctuary city since 1985.

Chicago's history as a sanctuary city started in 1985 | Chicago Sun-Times
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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New flash . Obama is gone come January . His lawless immigration policies are over. The political correctness died last week ....Believe me , President Trump will executive orders to de-fund sanctuary cities. Why? Because federal law supercedes state and city baboons like Emanuel . I'm sure Trump hasn't forgotten his sign missing that Emanuel took down ... hahnahahaah
News flash, you have no idea what you're talking about and apparently receive your information from Fox News and Breibart. Obama did not create sanctuary cities, they have been around long before you ever knew his name and they don't mean what you think they mean.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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I don't think people understand sanctuary cities.

A sanctuary city is a city that adopts local policies designed to not prosecute people solely for being an undocumented individual in the country in which they are currently living. These practices can be by law (de jure) or they can be in fact (de facto). The term generally applies to cities that do not allow municipal funds or resources to be used to enforce national immigration laws, usually by not allowing police or municipal employees to inquire about an individual's immigration status. The designation has no precise legal meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

That's it. Nobody is "shielding" criminals.

Sanctuary cities have decided not to do the federal government's job for them. Simple as that.

BTW, for all you butthurt snowflakes, Chicago has been a sanctuary city since 1985.

Chicago's history as a sanctuary city started in 1985 | Chicago Sun-Times
Thank you
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: CHICAGO, Illinois
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The federal government won't punish states like California and Illinois. These states are the largest contributor to the federal bank account:

Top Ten Least Dependent on the Federal Government:
1.Delaware
2.Connecticut
3.New Jersey
4.Kansas
5.California
6.Illinois
7.Nevada
8.Minnesota
9.New Hampshire
10.New York


Most Dependent:
1.Mississippi
2.New Mexico
3.Alabama
4.Louisiana
5.Tennessee
6.Montana
7.South Dakota
8.Kentucky
9.West Virginia
10.Missouri

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/
Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic

Last edited by thefallensrvnge; 11-14-2016 at 08:27 PM..
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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Two cities—New York and Chicago—got $60,091,942 and $28,523,222 respectively from the DOJ and Philadelphia followed with $16,505,312. South Florida’s Miami-Dade County received $10,778,815, Milwaukee, Wisconsin got $7,539,572, Cook County, Illinois $6,018,544, Clark County, Nevada $6,257,9851 and Orleans Parish, Louisiana $4,737,964. In some cases elected officials in these municipalities brag about defying federal immigration laws. One, the mayor of Chicago, is mentioned in the DOJ Inspector General report for publicly stating: “We are not going to turn people over to ICE, and we are not going to check their immigration status.” The city also prohibits employees from cooperating with federal immigration authorities, the report says.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.judic...il-grants/amp/
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:31 PM
 
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The federal government won't punish states like California and Illinois. These states are the largest contributor to the federal bank account:

Top Ten Least Dependent on the Federal Government:
1.Delaware
2.Connecticut
3.New Jersey
4.Kansas
5.California
6.Illinois
7.Nevada
8.Minnesota
9.New Hampshire
10.New York


Most Dependent:
1.Mississippi
2.New Mexico
3.Alabama
4.Louisiana
5.Tennessee
6.Montana
7.South Dakota
8.Kentucky
9.West Virginia
10.Missouri

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/
Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic
And ironically only 1 of the top 10 least dependent voted Trump while all but 1 of the most dependent voted for Trump.
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:37 PM
 
Location: CHICAGO, Illinois
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And ironically only 1 of the top 10 least dependent voted Trump while all but 1 of the most dependent voted for Trump.
And unfortunately Kansas's position is about to drop. Without a large city to generate revenue to the state, the funds used for tax incentives to poach business from Missouri with run dry. The brilliant work of the Koch brothers and their political stooge, Brownback.
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Old 11-14-2016, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Twilight zone
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New flash . Obama is gone come January . His lawless immigration policies are over. The political correctness died last week ....Believe me , President Trump will executive orders to de-fund sanctuary cities. Why? Because federal law supercedes state and city baboons like Emanuel . I'm sure Trump hasn't forgotten his sign missing that Emanuel took down ... hahnahahaah
you do realize that the highest number of illegal aliens were deported under Obama........
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Old 11-14-2016, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Below 59th St
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OP: did you post this same question over on the NY or LA forums? There's little doubt that blue states would be better off without the Feds redistributing their wealth to red ones.

What exactly are you trying to achieve? You aren't going to turn Chicago into a pit of conservative mouth breathers by carrying on like you're on a certain website that ends in 'bart'.
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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I don't think people understand sanctuary cities.

A sanctuary city is a city that adopts local policies designed to not prosecute people solely for being an undocumented individual in the country in which they are currently living. These practices can be by law (de jure) or they can be in fact (de facto). The term generally applies to cities that do not allow municipal funds or resources to be used to enforce national immigration laws, usually by not allowing police or municipal employees to inquire about an individual's immigration status. The designation has no precise legal meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

That's it. Nobody is "shielding" criminals.

Sanctuary cities have decided not to do the federal government's job for them. Simple as that.

BTW, for all you butthurt snowflakes, Chicago has been a sanctuary city since 1985.

Chicago's history as a sanctuary city started in 1985 | Chicago Sun-Times
Thank you +1. One small thing though. Rahm said that those who entered the country illegally will be "safe, secure and supported" in Chicago. I guess it depends on how you read that but I read it to go a quite a bit beyond simply standing back and declining to do the Fed's job for them. Also, according to one article, "[b]y ordinance, Chicago police and public agencies who come in contact with undocumented residents are instructed not to contact immigration authorities." That's basically concealment.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/emanuel-...rants/1606252/

So the technical definition of a "sanctuary city" is a red herring here. Now, I don't think the Federal government will send deportation troops or anything. They'll just cut off Federal funding, which Chicago relies upon extensively. So what our Mayor is really saying, on our behalf, is that the taxpayers of Chicago are willing to pay additional taxes - substantial additional taxes - to ensure the safety and security of that group to remain in the U.S. unlawfully and allow their employers continued access to a labor pool much cheaper than U.S. citizens at the lower end of the wage scale.

Are you willing to pony up to do that?
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