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Old 10-18-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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Are you serious?
I ask myself the same question every time I read 90% of the posts in this forum.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Previous mayors really didn't give a crap about what happened to the black neighborhoods in the city or were openly hostile to them, and now the problems are deeply entrenched. I don't think Rahm has any clue about how to solve these problems. He certainly cares more than Richard J. Daley about the plights of African American children, but he has no solutions.
You had to take it all the way back to the first Daley to make a point huh? Fail. Of course he has no solutions, because he isn't interested in the problem.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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All we need are 300,000 well-paying unskilled factory jobs located on the south and west sides of Chicago. That, and ponies for everyone.
And a monorail.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:53 AM
 
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Default A much smaller number of jobs would be very helpful...

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All we need are 300,000 well-paying unskilled factory jobs located on the south and west sides of Chicago. That, and ponies for everyone.
...honestly even if the city made an effort to get some admitedlly low paying jobs like "call centers" set up in some of the job wastelands that exist it would be a useful start. I know that places in rural Oklahoma near the Native American areas hard hit by poverty have benefited from even these modest efforts....

Call Centers Hiring, Seeking Customer Service Flare | NewsFactor Business

And if you get ponies expect Alderman Natarus to want diapers on 'em -- Burt Natarus: Nemesis of Noise, Hounder of Horses - Chicago Tribune
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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...honestly even if the city made an effort to get some admitedlly low paying jobs like "call centers" set up in some of the job wastelands that exist it would be a useful start. I know that places in rural Oklahoma near the Native American areas hard hit by poverty have benefited from even these modest efforts....

Call Centers Hiring, Seeking Customer Service Flare | NewsFactor Business

And if you get ponies expect Alderman Natarus to want diapers on 'em -- Burt Natarus: Nemesis of Noise, Hounder of Horses - Chicago Tribune
Natarus isn't an alderman anymore. So that's one less impediment to universal ponies.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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And if you get ponies expect Alderman Natarus to want diapers on 'em -- Burt Natarus: Nemesis of Noise, Hounder of Horses - Chicago Tribune
But what will Alderman Vrdolyak think? That's right, neither has been an alderman now for many years.

Even if the city had a million call center jobs, the thousands and thousands of people who drop out of a CPS high school and are hardly capable of putting a sentence together won't be employed there. There's a rung of people above them with better skills and social capital, and they'll commute to the employment or move here from other cities.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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LOL. When you can't make a valid point, derail the thread and talk about something that makes you more comfortable--bashing those whom you deem lesser. Very sad and disgusting how you guys' minds work.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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LOL. When you can't make a valid point, derail the thread and talk about something that makes you more comfortable--bashing those whom you deem lesser. Very sad and disgusting how you guys' minds work.
I can see how it comes off as bashing, but the reality is that our society produces a lot of people who aren't qualified for the modern labor force, which has shifted away from unskilled jobs that pay a living wage. If you have a solution to this problem where a mayor can snap his fingers and fix it, maybe you should be running for office. I personally think the problems are beyond the scope of local government. It seems like no one cares, but the truth is that no one feels they have a viable solution. Or that the solutions that were attempted didn't yield enough fruit to continue funding them.

If it were up to me, I'd love to see an economy that could support everyone, regardless of their skills, with a job that supports their families with a living wage. The closest we ever came to this was the post-WWII United States, but due to racism, the scraps went to the people at the bottom of the power structure. Rahm is not going to go down in history as our greatest mayor, but I do think in his heart he would love more manufacturing jobs in Chicago. But the world economy in it's current form just isn't going to produce those jobs for us. So we're stuck with fast food jobs for the high school drop outs, and those wages are not going to lift anyone out of poverty.

In the mean time, I'd still like to see our downtown, tourist destinations, and cultural institutions funded at a level that keeps people interested in living and doing business in Chicago.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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I can see how it comes off as bashing, but the reality is that our society produces a lot of people who aren't qualified for the labor modern labor force, which has shifted away from unskilled jobs that pay a living wage. If you have a solution to this problem where a mayor can snap his fingers and fix it, maybe you should be running for office. I personally think the problems are beyond the scope of local government. It seems like no one cares, but the truth is that no one feels they have a viable solution. Or that the solutions that were attempted didn't yield enough fruit to continue funding them.
You are not alone. This is a national issue that is not going to resolved anytime soon, unfortunately.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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I'm not feeding into your derail. Bigots always show their colors--they can't help themselves. Good day.
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