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Old 02-24-2012, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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you know what would help the communities?? instead of coercing these young men into a confession and off to prison. why not coercing them into the military. man. i mean get these young guys something better to do with their time!
Because the military doesn't want brigades of criminals. They have a hard enough time keeping a lid on the criminals they already get who were lucky enough to escape major conflicts with law enforcement and thus (barely) met recruitment standards. We want a military made up of people who want to be there, not flunktards who have no other option but prison.

 
Old 02-24-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Englewood
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I don't think they want to be known.
OFFICIALLY the smartest man in the room right now!
 
Old 02-24-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Englewood
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Because the military doesn't want brigades of criminals. They have a hard enough time keeping a lid on the criminals they already get who were lucky enough to escape major conflicts with law enforcement and thus (barely) met recruitment standards. We want a military made up of people who want to be there, not flunktards who have no other option but prison.
lol! but those "fluntards" can be reformed. give them a purpose. expand their minds. putting them in the military will allow them to see that the world is bigger than the ghetto my friend. i KNOW it'll change most of those young mens lives for the better but ofcourse you'll have a percentage who'll stray back to the dark.
 
Old 02-24-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Englewood
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Yes...we really want people that are already gang members and criminals to infiltrate the US military.

They could steal Military Grade weapons like Full auto machine guns or Anti-Tank rockets or military grade bulletproof vests and helmets.

Gangs are a Clear and Present Danger to the Safety and Security of the Honest American Citizens and should be treated as Domestic Terrorists by State and Federal LEO agencies.
lol! give them a chance. you wont wake up and turn on the tv to hear the pentagon has been tooken over by ex-criminal now turned military personnel. their young and still impressionable. all most of them know is THE GHETTO. theres still hope. alot of them deep down want something better for their lives anyway. think about it. who really wants to hurt their community? not too many. its their environment that created them. not them selves. they only go with the flow of the environment as they get older. thus ultimately creating what you see behind bars. look change is within all of us.
 
Old 02-24-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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lol! but those "fluntards" can be reformed. give them a purpose. expand their minds. putting them in the military will allow them to see that the world is bigger than the ghetto my friend. i KNOW it'll change most of those young mens lives for the better but ofcourse you'll have a percentage who'll stray back to the dark.
Your idea certainly isn't without merit. But the military is not a reform program or a social experiment. It serves a vital function and compromises to that function should be minimized. The military is having a hard time containing gang activity as it is from gang members who joined voluntarily. Throw in a bunch more who don't actually want to be there and it's not a recipe for success.
 
Old 02-24-2012, 10:10 PM
 
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But the military is not a reform program or a social experiment. .
Exactly. It is sad that we don't have any real options for straightening people out or instilling disciple or purpose other than having to ship people off to the military. I think people (who are not criminals) who do not have a set direction in their lives should have other options than the military...they could be doing something to build our country from inside. Like some sort of paid and structured form of Habitat for Humanity or something (i.e. structured work, training, etc).
 
Old 02-25-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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Exactly. It is sad that we don't have any real options for straightening people out or instilling disciple or purpose other than having to ship people off to the military. I think people (who are not criminals) who do not have a set direction in their lives should have other options than the military...they could be doing something to build our country from inside. Like some sort of paid and structured form of Habitat for Humanity or something (i.e. structured work, training, etc).
Well, that's part of the problem... There are not enough jobs, or some folks are not willing to work the low paying jobs and see the dealers on the corner making easy money with rolls of cash and it makes for an easy context to great into a downward spiral. Add on a lack of parenting/positive role models...
 
Old 02-25-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Not surprisingly, there are already numerous quantities of gang members in the Military:

FBI Details Threat From Gangs In The Military

Gang presence in the United States military - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A war not having a draft for is a war not worth fighting. Read General Smedley Butler's War is a Racket and see what you think.
 
Old 03-04-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Englewood
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Your idea certainly isn't without merit. But the military is not a reform program or a social experiment. It serves a vital function and compromises to that function should be minimized. The military is having a hard time containing gang activity as it is from gang members who joined voluntarily. Throw in a bunch more who don't actually want to be there and it's not a recipe for success.
so says drover. the military IS something like a reform program. cause its actually driven men and women crazy because of their "reform". a social experiment? i never thought of it as that sooo no. what gang activity is the military trying to combat? anyone whos in the military knows the rules? why gang bang in the military? it makes no sense. your better off staying in the street. so no. your incorrect on that one.
 
Old 03-04-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Englewood
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Not surprisingly, there are already numerous quantities of gang members in the Military:

FBI Details Threat From Gangs In The Military

Gang presence in the United States military - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A war not having a draft for is a war not worth fighting. Read General Smedley Butler's War is a Racket and see what you think.
extremely small percentage of people like that in the military. no ones literally in there throwing up gangs signs at a commanding officer, crip walking, or "callin it" for anyone on a military ran environment family. those "stats" can be exagerrated sometimes. if not most of the time. just because men who were known to be in gangs joined the military doesnt mean they go right back out to terrorize other human beings. the worst human beings alot of the time our the ones from your own nice little neighborhoods. so stop. shoot and miss bro.
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