10-22-2009, 12:14 PM
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We are relocating to Chicago next month and have rented a house in Buffalo Grove. My 11 year old daughter was accepted into an arts program that is downtown. Getting her to this program is causing a major (MAJOR) amount of stress to me and I am looking for feedback on whether its even possible. We would be looking at picking her up from school at 2:45pm and heading straight into the city. She needs to be there by 4:45pm. I think that is workable. BUT, I also need to turn around and get back to BG no later than 6pm to pick up my son from after-school care. Can a round trip drive me accomplished on the Edens to the Kennedy (I think that's how you call it), drop off at Randolph/Wabash and then TURN AROUND and get out of the city and back to BG by 6pm with some cushion.
Is it even feasible?
I am thinking it is possible, but stressful.
We test-drove the drive into the city twice and one day took 1 1/2 hours and the other, about 15 minutes less. However, the traffic exiting the city looked worse at time (but lighter at other times.) What do you think we could expect with the return trip?
Thanks in advance!
10-22-2009, 01:15 PM
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Ugh. I can imagine this is stressful. There is no good fast reliable way to be essentially in two place at once.
Given that your daughter is 11 I don't think that it would be prudent to try and rely on public transit to get her all the way to Randolph&Wabash, and frankly a cab is not an option for an 11 yr old unless it is one of those specialized "drop off children services". Might be cheaper to higher a local high schooler or Jr. College student that is reliable to deal with the pick-up from after care.
The maps sometimes 'lie' as real world travel times are going to be about what you have experienced IF NOT WORSE as the weather gets bad. Relocation is not an option now, but maybe in the future folks will check this sort of thing out ahead of time... How about car pools? Anyone else that you have met at the arts think coming from your neck of the woods? Or maybe even a parent from the program could met your daughter at Metra station?
Something is going to have to give...
10-22-2009, 01:59 PM
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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I think you're right on--getting down there shouldn't be a big deal, but getting back to BG will probably be a problem. What about taking your son with you instead of after-school care?
10-23-2009, 07:45 AM
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Search for other art programs. Do any of the Community Colleges offer? Many colleges and universities have satellite campuses in the suburbs. What about private lessons? The cost of driving and the emotional/physical stress is greater than private lessons. I can see doing it once a week, but more than that will lead to a nervous breakdown. I understand supporting your childs talents, but perhaps this program is better suited for her when she is older and can commute by herself.
10-23-2009, 09:26 AM
Location: Chicagoland
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With winter right around the corner, I would say on snowy days forget it!! I drove downtown to burbs for 7 years in a row and it was unpredictable as far as travel times. One flat tire on side of road or cops that has someone pulled over, completely backs up traffic (Rubber Neckers Suck!!!)
But if decide to go with your plan "Good Luck"
10-25-2009, 09:56 PM
Location: Too far from Alaska
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You can make it into downtown on time, but probabely not back to BG by 6. Not reliably. You should look into someone else doing this for you if that program is important enough to you.
I can't imagine doing this 5 days a week. That's a lot of sitting in traffic. A lot!
Is Metra an option?
10-28-2009, 10:56 AM
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I think that under "normal" circumstances (as if those exist, lol), this should be doable. STRESSFUL, but doable. However, if there is a bad accident, major roadwork, or bad weather you are going to be way late picking your son up. You would need to have a plan for what to do when you can't get home in time. Between accidents, construction, and weather I would plan on at least 30% of the time or so not being home in time, and that's being optimistic.
Not to mention, I think this would cause a HUGE amount of stress for you and your family. Doing the commute morning/night like most people do gets stressful enough. Seriously, don't do it!
10-28-2009, 11:38 AM
Location: Chicago
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lesliead
...Is it even feasible?
I am thinking it is possible, but stressful.
We test-drove the drive into the city twice and one day took 1 1/2 hours and the other, about 15 minutes less. However, the traffic exiting the city looked worse at time (but lighter at other times.) What do you think we could expect with the return trip?...
Just wait till it starts snowing. Then the fun begins.
10-28-2009, 11:39 AM
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Hey let's be reasonable here - forget traffic congestion because of weather or accidents, don't forget major sporting events too! Any time the Cubs play, Kennedy in and outbound are both backed up at least several exists before and around Addison.
Having lived downtown for 10 years, I've learned numerous roads to get around in a jiffy when everybody else is stuck in traffic. The highways aren't necessarily always the fastest or easiest routes. Try adding Elston (but not north of Fullerton) and route 72 (north of Milwaukee) to the mix and you can consistently shave off 30 minutes to your travels. Except on snow days. Then you're screwed.
10-28-2009, 12:13 PM
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Eusibius:
The fact that there are SOME alternates to SOME roads still won't make up for the shear distance. Short of relying on a HELICOPTER the distance between Buffalo Grove (part of which lies in LAKE CO. for goodness sake) is going to make this tough. Even if the OP was a local and well versed in the use of GPS or maps there is just too much distance for this to be a long term viable option. It is also a FACT that some surface streets are as variable than the expressway, if not moreso, due to exactly the 'event driven" traffic you mention. It is not just the shifts that occur as sports fans want to get a Cubs game, there are also traffic issues as people in the burbs head to events at United Center or Rosemont or other venues. Heck even Holiday Shopping can add extra load to streets! (and lets hope that does not completely dry up with the doomsayers economic predictions!)
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Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)