10-30-2013, 01:36 PM
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Naperville and Oak Park are not on the same train line. Also, Naperville is arguably the most exciting place on the BNSF line anyway.
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There is a BNSF train stop in Berwyn - 5 to 10 minutes away which is what many people drive to their train station of choice anyway. If the OP has his heart set on living in Oak Park then this is definitely an option to consider if traffic becomes problematic but he would be pushing 60-75minutes end to end IMO going that route. I did it every day for several years though as do a lot of people so it is definitely doable assuming he can get to his place of employment from the train station in Naperville.
There's no good way to get from the Metra station in Naperville to the work place. No buses, and its a 1.5 mile walk/bike ride along a route that is not pedestrian/bicyclist friendly.
10-30-2013, 01:55 PM
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I completely agree with Lookout Kid. Living in Oak Park would make it a little easier to get to the city on weekends, but I think it would lack the ease that you seek-- and I'm not sure it would be any better than living in downtown Naperville (and may even be worse). And while there's no question that the commute from Oak Park to Naperville is better than city to Naperville, it still would not be my cup of tea. Unless this job offer is the best thing ever, I would do as Lookout Kid suggests.
I agree with this as the single scene is not necessary great for someone in there 20s. There are bars and Forest Park nearby, but I have a feeing that you would like the city better especially Lakeview/LP as it fits your age range. However, it is easy to get to the city as I was in a person in their 20s living in this area.
It was easily 10 minutes to Wicker Park/Bucktown/Six Corners area, 5-10 to the West Loop and maybe 20 mins to Lakeview. This was outside of rush hour. If you are strictly a night person with socializing, you might not be missing anything that much by living in Oak Park as you can get to these areas very easily for nightlife and you could easily get to Naperville too.
But if you want to socialize during the day, I can see how you feel like you are missing out especially if you like to be near the lake during the summer. That is truly the only time I felt like I was missing out. Mostly during the summer.
However, I wanted to give you a little tip so you would not be disappointed. You sound like me in 20s and could go to places by themselves and strike up fun conversations. I would not expect this many of the bars, lounges or clubs in the city as it is still very clicky, but just a younger more exciting crowd.
Get ready for people to stick with their own groups. The trendier the place the worse it is. If you already have an established group or roommate than this could work out.
11-02-2013, 02:16 PM
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My husband used to do the commute from Oak Park to Diehl/88. It took him 35-40 minutes in the morning and most often 50 minutes in the evening. We lived near Lake and Harlem in OP. It was nice to hop on the Green line to go downtown; not nice trying to find parking close to our building after work (we had no dedicated parking). There is not a whole lot of nightlife in Oak Park, but the strip of bars in Forest Park is close.
Surprisingly, downtown Naperville has a much busier nightlife than I ever suspected. I went out a few months ago with a group of girlfriends, and as we were heading back to our cars at 10pm, the sidewalks outside were packed with people waiting to get into the bars. I felt absolutely ancient (I'm in my mid 30's). I think you would find plenty to do in Naperville, and you can always hop on Metra to the city if you get bored.
11-02-2013, 10:23 PM
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To the OP,
By the sounds of it, you seem to be familiar with what's going on in Naperville, and others have lays out the commute, so I won't bother going there. Oak Park is a very family oriented community, but there are also a good amount of young professionals living here. There isn't really a bar scene here, so you'd more likely meet other young people around the apartment complex, at classes, the gym and activities, than you would going to bars at night (other than the strip in Forest Park)... But you never know (Bar Louie). Saying that, I think the main advantage considering your situation is the proximity of Oak Park to Chicago. I can get to the west loop in 20 minutes by car. The proximity really opens up realistic options for using the city on a weekly basis, as oppose to feeling like that haul you'd make only for special occasions, which can get old fast. Living in Forest Park could also be an option, though I feel like Oak Park has more going on generally, minus the bars. Best thing to do would be to visit Oak Park and get a feel for whether you think you'd be happy here.
11-02-2013, 11:49 PM
Location: Johns Island
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My husband used to do the commute from Oak Park to Diehl/88. It took him 35-40 minutes in the morning and most often 50 minutes in the evening. We lived near Lake and Harlem in OP.
This is the first posting with realistic commute times between OP and Naperville. I did OP to Lisle, Bolingbrook, and Naperville, so I know the deal. 30 minutes? Only after 9:30am and before 3:00pm.
Obviously living farther southwest in OP will shave a few minutes off your commute. The difference between living near Harlem and Madison versus Ridgeland and Division could be an extra 10 minutes or more.
The person who said you can get to the Berwyn train station from OP in 5-10 minutes is also not speaking reality... The only way that would eb possible woudld be if you lived very near Oak Park Ave and Roosevelt, and you could shoot straight down OP Ave to the station. Live anywhere else in OP, especially north of the Ike, and it will take you at least 15 minutes to get to the Berwyn train, likely more.
11-03-2013, 08:24 AM
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The worst part of the commute to I-88 will be I-290 between Oak Park and the "Hillside Bottleneck". If you can live west of the bottleneck (where I-290 hits I-294 and I-88), you will have an easier commute. I think I would just suck it up and live near downtown Naperville if you don't want to find a different job in the Loop.
11-03-2013, 08:07 PM
Location: Chicago
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The worst part of the commute to I-88 will be I-290 between Oak Park and the "Hillside Bottleneck". If you can live west of the bottleneck (where I-290 hits I-294 and I-88), you will have an easier commute. I think I would just suck it up and live near downtown Naperville if you don't want to find a different job in the Loop.
Is it possible to be west of the bottleneck and still be in Oak Park? It doesn't look like it on google, but maybe there is something I don't know.
In general, my thoughts on commuting by car in Chicago is to figure out how long you think it should take and add about 30 minutes. That's how long it really takes.
11-03-2013, 09:52 PM
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Is it possible to be west of the bottleneck and still be in Oak Park? It doesn't look like it on google, but maybe there is something I don't know.
No, not by several miles. I wouldn't recommend commuting to this location in Naperville from Oak Park. I think it's a terrible plan.
11-07-2013, 11:18 AM
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There are a lot of young adults living and working in the Diehl road type corridor in Naperville. It takes way longer than thirty minutes to drive from Naperville to Oak Park in rush hour. I do not know if you could even do it on an empty Sunday morning...that is when traffic is really light.
11-07-2013, 11:21 AM
Location: Oak Park, IL
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There are a lot of young adults living and working in the Diehl road type corridor in Naperville. It takes way longer than thirty minutes to drive from Naperville to Oak Park in rush hour. I do not know if you could even do it on an empty Sunday morning...that is when traffic is really light.
Without traffic, its easily doable in 30 minutes. Granted, you'll never be traffic free during normal commuting hours.
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)