News, Cosby Makes Challenge to Black Community. (tall, country, children)
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OAKWOOD VILLAGE, Ohio -- Comedian and activist Bill Cosby says problems in the black community are like dirty laundry that need to be washed, not ignored.
Newsmax.com - Cosby Makes Challenge to Black Community (http://www.newsmax.com/entertainment/bill_cosby/2008/03/06/78332.html - broken link)
I agree on principle, but it is easy to claim this when you are loaded with money.
I've seen a news item which stated that 3 million American kids (who often are coloured) are raised by their grandparents, because their parent's are unable to. I find it unforgivable that the government doesn't financially aid these grandparents who raise their grandchildren.
Harlem recently opened a special home for the elderly who also raise their grandchildren, but they only had room for 50 families.
A great American and great American icon. Not afraid to call a spade a spade, takes the flack, and continues to help inspire our kids to participate and do their best in life. He puts the likes of Jackson and Sharpton (expert only at self aggrandizement) to shame.
I agree on principle, but it is easy to claim this when you are loaded with money.
I've seen a news item which stated that 3 million American kids (who often are coloured) are raised by their grandparents, because their parent's are unable to. I find it unforgivable that the government doesn't financially aid these grandparents who raise their grandchildren.Harlem recently opened a special home for the elderly who also raise their grandchildren, but they only had room for 50 families.
Why is it the responsibility of the federal gov't (MY TAXES!) to pay for the rearing of someone else's children?
Bill Cosby worked hard for what he has. He certainly was not a child of the privileged. And he's from Philly, which could use some of his advice. Instead of listening to his message of "get to work, work hard, stay out of trouble, have goals, no one owes you anything, lift yourself up, don't depend on gov't handouts"- all they want is their check in the mail.
He has been saying this forever. The "black leadership" in his community want to shut him up, b/c THEY benefit from other's misery. I am sickened that they reject his message of self sufficiency. It is hard work that is going to get people out of poverty- not a gov't handout.
Tricky D, don't fall for the class envy line, either. You are going to slight him because he has more money than you? Here's a man who worked hard for what he has, used his gifts and talents to become and stay successful. He wasn't always loaded with money- he earned it. And I do not understand why that message is being rejected by his critics. Well, yes I do: Keep people dependent upon the gov't- keep those who write the checks in power, keep the population stupid, uninspired, unmotivated- and blame all your problems on ......everyone else. Life is much easier then.
Good for Dr. Cosby. Keep up the good fight! I have always admired his talent, but I admire what he does off camera even more.
I think Bill is telling the black community that it is time to stand tall and take responsibility for their future and their actions. Despite its faults, this is the greatest country on earth for a person to succeed - so long as they have the desire.
Why is it the responsibility of the federal gov't (MY TAXES!) to pay for the rearing of someone else's children?
Because tax money is not 'yours' but the government's and they should use it in such a way that the whole nation profits from it.
When children become part of a family that loves them (instead of foster homes and the like) and enjoy a good education they will be less inclined to fall into criminality. The prevention of large parts of your citizenship of becoming a criminal can only be a good thing for the nation.
It should not matter what race the child is, since poverty does not discriminate.
Originally Posted by Oldiebutgoodie26 Because tax money is not 'yours' but the government's and they should use it in such a way that the whole nation profits from it.
When children become part of a family that loves them (instead of foster homes and the like) and enjoy a good education they will be less inclined to fall into criminality. The prevention of large parts of your citizenship of becoming a criminal can only be a good thing for the nation.
It should not matter what race the child is, since poverty does not discriminate.
I still do not understand why it is my financial responsibility to pay for this. Why does the federal gov't need to be repsonsible for raising children? I've seen the federal gov't in action in my classroom- it needs to back off. The less the feds get involved in things, usually, the better. This idea that somehow the feds will magically make families more loving and kids smarter and there will be less crime is a fairy tale.
I agree that helping to prevent people from turning to a life of crime is a good thing. Young people need role models and discipline. What they do not need is a handout. They need to be self sufficient, not get pregnant at age 16, sell drugs, kill each other over a pair of sneakers, not expect someone else to support them - that is what they need. They need to learn to work hard and earn what they have. This does not come from my tax dollars.
THIS is what Dr. Cosby has been trying to tell young folks. You need to earn your keep. Take responsibility for your actions- there are no victims here. Make your own destiny. Sorry, I'm not a liberal nor a socialist. I think this mentality in the African American/minority communities has done the greatest disservice to it since slavery. You want to talk about destroying a person's life? Take away all incentive for them to succeed. Take away their goals. Keep them from reaching their potential by teling them the "gov't" will take care of them. What a horrible thing to do to young people- kill their future before they have a chance at it. THIS is why Dr. Cosby says these things, and why the "black leadership" of this country does not want to hear it. These crazy ideas of independence and self worth/sufficieny do not keep Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton on the tv. While I agree that keeping kids on a path to success is everyone's concern, I do not thing this should be a function of the federal gov't. It might work in Holland, but, Dr. Cosby does not think it works here.
Last edited by Oldiebutgoodie26; 03-12-2008 at 07:19 AM..
Reason: Forgot a word
Originally Posted by Oldiebutgoodie26 Because tax money is not 'yours' but the government's and they should use it in such a way that the whole nation profits from it.
When children become part of a family that loves them (instead of foster homes and the like) and enjoy a good education they will be less inclined to fall into criminality. The prevention of large parts of your citizenship of becoming a criminal can only be a good thing for the nation.
It should not matter what race the child is, since poverty does not discriminate.
Here's a thought.....if all those girls in the hood would stop getting pregnant to keep their thugs, then the kids wouldn't have to live with grandma and she wouldn't have to ask for money. All these other things are symptoms. The root cause of the problems is all the children born to teenage mothers and they don't just have one, they have 2, 3, 4 or more. Why is it so accepted in the black community that girls can have babies when ever they want? Then they get on welfare and don't get off.
I agree with oldies, my tax money can be used for better stuff like taking care of the elderly who worked hard and can't afford housing and medicine now. I'm tired of paying for people who are continuously irresponsible. And it is MY tax money. I'd be rich if I got to keep all that money that Uncle Sam takes for stuff like this!
Dr. Cosby is really saying the same thing Dr. Martin Luther King said many years ago. He said "learn baby learn. so you can earn baby earn!" he didnt say anything about handouts. Yet Black America holds Dr. King in high regard and discounts Dr. Cosby. I dont get it. I doubt Dr. King would be proud of Black America today. I am one of the most liberal Democrats you will ever meet. Hell, I am damn near a Commie! But guess what? The well is running dry. In the Black community now you never hear the words "my husband". you only hear the term "my babys daddy". X2 or X3 or X4. i hear people like Rev. Al [although i have no clue what he is the Reverend of] saying that blacks are owed this or that because of past injustices.Sorry! But NO! White America owes you a HAND UP not a HAND OUT! And if you dont take the HAND UP pretty soon the hand will be withdrawn altogether and Black America can just drown in the cesspool that it is creating for itself! JMO
saying that blacks are owed this or that because of past injustices.Sorry! But NO! White America owes you a HAND UP not a HAND OUT! And if you dont take the HAND UP pretty soon the hand will be withdrawn altogether and Black America can just drown in the cesspool that it is creating for itself! JMO
I think the hand up should have been withdrawn long ago.
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I've seen a news item which stated that 3 million American kids (who often are coloured) are raised by their grandparents, because their parent's are unable to. I find it unforgivable that the government doesn't financially aid these grandparents who raise their grandchildren.
Because tax money is not 'yours' but the government's and they should use it in such a way that the whole nation profits from it.
The prevention of large parts of your citizenship of becoming a criminal can only be a good thing for the nation.