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I see there are quite a bit of second cup places here in montreal. What surprises me the most is they are open 24 hours a day. Does anyone here prefer second cup vs starbucks? Are prices higher at starbucks than second cup? Another place i saw a lot is tim hortons which being from the usa... i never heard of this as its canadian only.
Tim Hortons is spreading out into the States now. I prefer Timmies though. Its a run of the mill coffee to some, but I'm in and out of the drive thru within a minute or so most days. To me, Starbucks and Second Cup are set up for, and attract faux-hippies, hipster doofus', and yuppies who want to have people watch them type up their new junky screenplay on their expensive laptop.
Second Cup and Tim Hortons are Canadian based chains. Tim's has experimented with American expansion, but the expansion hasn't been all that successful, and I have heard most shareholders would prefer Tims to concentrate on the American market.
Second Cup competes with Starbucks and other second wave cafes. They offer a bit more than the standard coffee and donut shop. Starbucks moved into Canada after Second Cup was established, and Second Cup is still more prominent in some markets. It seems like Starbucks took off in Vancouver before the East, so Second Cup seems to have a bigger presence in the East.
Generally, I prefer Starbucks to Second Cup, especially if I will be ordering an espresso based drink. I am not a big fan of Starbuck's brewed coffee, but I prefer both to Tims (I guess). There are a number of local independent shops and regional chains that I will choose before the three coffee shops compared in the thread.
I disagree with the previous poster's description of Second Cup and Starbucks. I think they are both way too mainstream for hipsters and too corporate for hippies. They certainly attract their fair share of yuppies, but they don't cater exclusively to these folks.
I'm not much of a coffee drinker, but the only coffee I can stomach is Timmie's double-double.
I've had Starbuck's coffee twice....just plain coffee...and it was bitter and awful. Maybe just plain coffee isn't their forte.
Tim Hortons is spreading out into the States now. I prefer Timmies though. Its a run of the mill coffee to some, but I'm in and out of the drive thru within a minute or so most days. To me, Starbucks and Second Cup are set up for, and attract faux-hippies, hipster doofus', and yuppies who want to have people watch them type up their new junky screenplay on their expensive laptop.
you prefer timmies, but what's the point of mocking other customers with different preference.
Starbucks attracts different people. For example, you can discuss an investment opportunity or talk about a business deal with a client at Starbucks, can you do that at Tim Horton's?
And let me ask this question to Timmies fans. If Tim Hortons charge the same price as Starbucks and Second Cup, what are the chances you will still stick to it?
you prefer timmies, but what's the point of mocking other customers with different preference.
Starbucks attracts different people. For example, you can discuss an investment opportunity or talk about a business deal with a client at Starbucks, can you do that at Tim Horton's?
And let me ask this question to Timmies fans. If Tim Hortons charge the same price as Starbucks and Second Cup, what are the chances you will still stick to it?
In the end, it is about money, at least for most.
Tim Horton's was smarted it positioned itself as Canada's coffee Chain and used nationalism to gain the market share while star bucks flounders and is closing Canadian franchises.
Tims has jumped on that and opened up more franchises and coffee chains across the country and did a Massive TV, Radio and internet ad Champaign and it was a huge success.
Tim Horton's was smarted it positioned itself as Canada's coffee Chain and used nationalism to gain the market share while star bucks flounders and is closing Canadian franchises.
Ummm ... No! Tim Horton's becoming successful has more to do with the business model and less to do with advertizing/ Canadian nationalism, etc. Tim Hortons is successful for the same reasons Mcdonald's is successful. Fast, cheap, mildly appealing and terribly addictive products.
And keep in mind that Tim Horton's does not enjoy the same level of success all across Canada.
Ummm ... No! Tim Horton's becoming successful has more to do with the business model and less to do with advertizing/ Canadian nationalism, etc. Tim Hortons is successful for the same reasons Mcdonald's is successful. Fast, cheap, mildly appealing and terribly addictive products.
And keep in mind that Tim Horton's does not enjoy the same level of success all across Canada.
Well in this part of B.C. I will and do wait 20-25 minutes in the drive-thru sometimes for a double-single large coffee....I need my timmies in the morning or I am in grouchy mood the rest of the day
Sorry Tim's doesn't do it for me. I find the coffee too weak, I much prefer the coffee at Starbucks.
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